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Artemisia annua tincture was driving my food reactions and elevated heart rate?

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Posted 12/28/2024 4:44 PM (GMT -5)
I recently stopped taking all of my supplements out of depression and side effects concerns - disulfiram, methylene blue, and artemisia annua tincture.

My infections are raging and I feel like the meds are inadequate, so I quite quickly felt pretty bad again. So I took more of the disulfiram and methylene blue for relief.

I noticed how my heart rate has been regular and I can eat every food again - though I haven’t been, just on Christmas and one other time.

The timeline would suggest that the artemisia annua tincture was what was causing me to have a higher heart rate and MCAS/histamine like reactions to food, to where I’d get inflamed and tachycardic.

Is this a sensitivity, or could it be a herx?

My Babs symptoms have never been super prominent or distinguishable from Lyme or mold imo. I always hoped I didn’t have it…

I have had night sweats maybe once a month for 16 years. And head pressures sometimes. My circulation has grown increasingly bad over the last couple years. Had thought COVID, but perhaps Bart and Babs fibrin nests have greatly worsened…

Bart and Lyme are definitely in my CNS.
Posted 12/28/2024 4:59 PM (GMT -5)
there are scientific references for allergies to artemisia and related plants

so i wonder if ingesting it might have triggered some kind of allergic response -

it doesn't sound typical for an allergic reaction - typical allergy symptoms might more often be
Respiratory issues: Sneezing, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath
Nasal congestion: Runny nose or persistent congestion
Eye issues: Watery or itchy eyes
Skin reactions: Rash or hives
Conjunctivitis: Eye inflammation
Asthma: Allergic asthma
Atopic eczema: Skin condition

but with lyme and co everything can get kind of mixed up - and ingesting it might have different effects vs say inhaling the pollen or brushing against the plant itself - so its not always clear cut

anyway - its just a thought

i dont think the herb tincture is very powerful for babesia in any case ( even the purified related drug artemisinin isnt very effective on it own for babs ) so i dont think you will be missing out much by discontinuing it

all the best
Posted 12/28/2024 5:01 PM (GMT -5)
I had similar reactions to artemisinin. It caused a lot of detoxing and messed with my heart rate and blood pressure.

I'm not sure how much of it was herx, or a reaction to the artemisinin itself. I never had any specific symptoms of babesia, but artemisinin seems to hit borrelia somewhat, so I herxed from that.

My general strategy with MCAS and allergies is to take low doses of minocycline or azithromycin, just enough to put borrelia into a dormant state where my immune system doesn't react to it so much, then wait for my immune system to calm down.
Posted 12/28/2024 5:41 PM (GMT -5)
Really dunno what to do, guys. My infections are so bad, pharmaceuticals are tempting, but I won’t be able to go for a few months.

But then I also worry about them ruining my gut and actually giving me histamine/MCAS problems long-term.

It’s shocking how I went from reacting to sausages, canned meats, bananas, almost every food - to just a couple days after artemesia, back to a burrito.

Corn tortilla chips. I’m sure I could eat anything. Heart rate in the 60s and 70s after. It’s the strangest thing.

I think Babesia is finally coming out, though, because I sometimes have the faintest tinge of air hunger.

I fear my life is heading down a dark path with my infections. I think of self-harm every day. I know places where fentanyl is easy to procure.

Disulfiram gave me a lot of health for many years, but I think Bart and Babs are finally saying enough is enough, and I think the disulfiram is partially the cause for my cystic acne worsening since 2022… and I’m tired of having no libido and numb genitals.

It was also a really bad year in my personal life. Everyone that genuinely cared about me has either passed away or left my life.

I don’t expect anyone to say or do anything in regards to my mental health. I will just do my best to keep going and wait to be at peace with my grandparents after a natural death.
Posted 12/28/2024 7:40 PM (GMT -5)
Hi Antonio. I’m sorry that you are going through a rough patch. Please don’t harm yourself. Your life has so much value. If you need to communicate with anyone, don’t hesitate to reach out. We are praying for you, buddy.
Posted 12/29/2024 8:52 AM (GMT -5)
keep on, im taking artemisia almost a year. i have sometimes higher heartrate with mild headace. For me its aways a babesia herx, because i got ths for two weeks and then im feeling better. i treated babesia just with herbs the last year, didnt had so much sucess, thats why im starting tafenoquine next week. maybe you should start targeting babesia?
Posted 12/29/2024 2:06 PM (GMT -5)
this is a very challenging illness - we all get dragged down by it from time to time

but you have been able to make progress in the past - so you will be able to again

finding out the artemisia was driving a lot of symptoms is a big win - so you are better off now than you were a few weeks ago - that's something

try to stay focussed on the things that you can control - rather than the worries of what might, in the worst case scenario, be going on in your body.

what's in the way of you getting on a a pragmatic step by step program to get the infections under control again ?
Posted 12/31/2024 1:32 AM (GMT -5)
I haven’t been working and racked up a bunch of debt that I need to pay down first. It’ll just take a few months.

I can start doing herbs and OTC stuff a bit sooner than that, but not currently.

My symptoms and overall functioning are the worst they’ve ever been. I don’t know what are side effects from the disulfiram, herxing or side effects from the Artemisia, etc.

I also went through a pretty big fallout with someone that had been super close to me for 13 years and I’ll probably be heartbroken for quite a long time.

Such is life. I’m trying to go on until I die.
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