Question about magnesium

I read an article from Dr. F in Arizona and he said that we shouldn't be taking ANY magnesium because it's what the organisms use to build cell walls. My new Dr. said the same thing. But I noticed that some people do in fact take it as a supplement (I'm assuming for muscle spasms?) Does anyone know what is the right thing? It seems like every multivitamin under the sun, as well as green drinks have magnesium in them...?

This is all so confusing! Still, even though I've been at it for 7 mos.!!

I was just thinking about this today. I take huge doses of magnesium to control muscle twitching. I'm up to 3000+mg some days. However, it doesn't work great and my treatment isn't working like it should either. My llmd has entertained the thought of fl1953 and has had me on plaquenil for it but never told me to stop magnesium.

You're also supposed to limit fat intake which is my main source of calories right now because of some pretty drastic weight loss since I got sick. So I'd like to treat fl1953 but I can't physically do the treatment that Dr. F suggests. It puts me in a tough position because I feel like his treatment could either make me improve or get much thinner and sicker. It's risky.

I stopped magnesium, actually I stopped many vitamins and minerals because of a cytokine storm. All I take is Resveratrol, saventaro, eluthero, artemisin, fish oil, probiotics, biotin, licorice, adr (by Pure for adrenals, was able to get off cortisol with this), bacapa, ashwaganda, saw palmetto, lysine, folic acid and NAC. Oh and I have b12 shots every 5 days now. All other supplements, daily vitamins and minerals have stopped. And no tics or muscle spasms. I had no choice but to suppress my immune system or the cytokine storm would have killed me. I have been off all the said supplements for about 2 months now. There have been no dificiencies that came up either. Currently on Mepron 1500 mg, azithromycin, 600 mg, and doxy 400 mg daily.

samjones, you mentioned Resveratrol and it reminded me, a few years ago I heard of its benefits and was having unknown health issues (before I realized I have Lyme). I had a horrible reaction to it. Red, painful burning skin and a rash as well, if I remember correctly.

When I found out about Lyme I thought back to that incident and wondered if it was related, but now I'm not sure. Have you ever heard of this happening? Just curious. I guess I try to associate everything with Lyme now that I know about it...lol!

Also, would you mind to explain what you mean by a "cytokine storm"?

I'm considering stopping magnesium, at least temporarily, until I can see an LLMD. Thanks for sharing this info everyone...

Traveler is right. In my case, my doctor believes it was the Rifampin that brought on the storm. Cytokine storms were actually what most people died from in the 1918 influenza pandemic. It was the healthier people that died because they had strong immune systems. From what I understand and remember reading (mind you, I was more foggy and confused during this storm than any other time w/lyme) the body releases 2 different immune responses. The immune system tells different cells (like the t cells) that they need to go to the infection and ward it off. Cytokines activate those cells, and they stimulate the cells to produce more cytokines. And somehow the body's immune system keeps this stable. However in my case, my immune system could not stablize this and the cytokines kept producing. These cells cause major inflammation and pain. Like traveler said, this immune response usually goes to the site of infection. Well my site of infection was everywhere where the lyme is in my body. So all my organs well swelling and inflamed. It was hard to breathe and oh the pain. We had to suppress my immune system and I had to take a lot of herbs that were immunomodulators (basically the opposite of the immune response that the cytokine storm produces).

I had derealization and depersonalization disorder, I was seeing things, hearing things. Oh, and did I mention the pain?? lol.

I read somewhere that 20% of late stage lyme patients go through this. And I can understand why I have read many times why the immune system needs to be suppressed with lyme. But it lasted about 2 months, still feeling some of the effects. My babesia relasped and my lyme flared up badly. I don't know how long I have to stay away from vitamins that strengthen up my immune system, but my doctor isn't rushing into it anytime soon. Thank God I have him...

Hey Lymer,

Steroids worsens Lyme and its symptoms, unfortunately sometimes they are neccessary.

As for pain meds, I am a firm believer in Vicodin. I am very careful not to become addicted, and I will withhold it and find a different source of pain relief for as long as I can many times. People tell me all the time that it's a toxin and just something else my body needs to detox, but the pain is debilitating and leaves me bedridden. The pain also causes depression, anxiety, and a feeling of helplessness. I would rather detox the vicodin than deal with the rest. And having a child with similar debilitating lyme, sometimes there is just no time for the pain.

My LLMD tried to switch me to Percocet, just to switch it up, but my stomach couldn't handle it. So he writes me a script of Vicodin everytime I ask for it. Thank God he is so understanding about the pain.

My best friend has a saying, "You don't ask, you don't get." You can be no worse off than you were before you asked. And sometimes...we actually get what we asked for..