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Posted 12/13/2013 1:42 AM (GMT -5)
LYME AB SCREEN >5.00

LYME DISEASE AB (IGG) WB POSITIVE

18 KD (IGG) BAND REACTIVE

23 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE

28 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE

30 KD (IGG) BAND REACTIVE

39 KD (IGG) BAND REACTIVE

41 KD (IGG) BAND REACTIVE

45 KD (IGG) BAND REACTIVE

58 KD (IGG) BAND REACTIVE

66 KD (IGG) BAND REACTIVE

93 KD (IGG) BAND NON-REACTIVE

LYME DISEASE AB (IGM) WB POSITIVE

23 KD (IGM) BAND REACTIVE

39 KD (IGM) BAND REACTIVE

41 KD (IGM) BAND REACTIVE

LYME AB SCREEN >5.00
Posted 12/13/2013 8:35 AM (GMT -5)
It means there is absolutely no doubt you have Lyme. That is probably the most positive test I've ever seen especially coming from a non-specialty lab.

On the IgM you need 2 out of 3 of those bands to be reactive to be CDC positive which is pretty rare yet you have all 3.

No doctor can ever interpret those results as not being positive.
Posted 12/13/2013 2:30 PM (GMT -5)
Yep! WOW! I agree with ToddPaul. You've had the infection for a while, according to your IgG results. The only Lyme specific bands you didn't react to were Band 31 & 34!!

Congrats! You should be able to walk into any legit LLMD's office and get treatment without any hassles!
Posted 12/13/2013 3:58 PM (GMT -5)
Is this a bad thing or a good thing. I defiantly have lyme but does the strong test results mean longer treatment, more symptoms, etc?
Posted 12/13/2013 4:11 PM (GMT -5)
Not necessarily. The strength and how long you've had symptoms will tell you more. This just means that once you find a good LLMD, you won't have any trouble getting proper treatment for Lyme disease.

Have you looked through the symptom lists in the "New to Lyme?" thread to see if you have symptoms of any of the other tick-borne infections? Infections with Bartonella or Babesia can sometimes make it harder to heal from Lyme unless they are tackled at the same time and detoxing pathways are working well.
Posted 12/13/2013 5:25 PM (GMT -5)
Well the thing is I remember being bit by a tick about two years ago but no bulls eye no flu or

anything, maybe a coincidence or maybe it wasn't the tick that infected me. I started feeling like

crap this summer in July. I went through the 28 days of doxycycline which resulted in me feeling

even worse then I did another round but stopped halfway through continued to feel worse and

worse. I went til october running around to different doctors getting every test done to rule

out other things until finally I found a LLMD at the end of October who is treating me for lyme

and Cos but I have to say even though everyone is positive about these results and saying I got

lucky I am still pretty sick and not getting much better even after 6 weeks of treatment and the 4

initial weeks of treatment. I still have a list of symptoms and still really don't feel good. I

started with a few annoying symptoms but now I have a ton of new ones so I really don't know

what to think. Being treated for lyme and bart with ceftin/rifampin/pulse flaygl. Detox with byron whites

NT detox/epsomsalt baths/ lemon water.
Posted 12/13/2013 5:37 PM (GMT -5)
You could be having issues with your body detoxing well enough - I know that I and many with chronic Lyme have this issue. Is there a FIR sauna that you can use? A health club or gym near you might have one. They are really good for detoxing.

You could also try activated charcoal as well.

You should be seeing some results from your treatment by now though.

Something you may need to consider is that abx don't seem to work for everyone. Some have to at least add in some herbs, others have to use herbs only.
Posted 12/13/2013 5:40 PM (GMT -5)
I mean I must admit I feel a little better but I do feel worse than when I first found out I had it. At first I

thought it was no big deal but then it continued to get worse where I was pretty sure I was going to die

haha And no I wish I had a sauna but my gym is lame.
Posted 12/13/2013 5:41 PM (GMT -5)
And Do I have chronic lyme?
Posted 12/13/2013 5:56 PM (GMT -5)
Well, IgG results happen later in the immune response, so your infection isn't "new". I think the IgM response happens during the first 6 - 8 weeks of the infection, then the immune system will produce the IgG results. It's just assumed that once a person has shown an IgG result that their infection is chronic, but it's definitely not written in stone either.

Yet more confusion! Sorry! We need so much more research before we can really give "solid" answers to much of this.
Posted 12/13/2013 5:59 PM (GMT -5)
Traveler, non specialty labs usually dont test for 31 and 34 bands. I bet if member did IGenex test they would show up as positive based on this none specialty lab result (I'm guessing LabCorp or Quest).

Like others have said, WOW, definitely no doubt.
Posted 12/13/2013 6:00 PM (GMT -5)
soooo that being said what are the chances Im feeling like myself again anytime soon? haha
Posted 12/13/2013 6:14 PM (GMT -5)
YOu just might be surprised!! How bad are your symptoms?
Posted 12/13/2013 6:23 PM (GMT -5)
Um my eyes hurt, really sensitive to light, few minor headaches, muscle spasms twitches and sore, hands shake, get tired easily, brain fog comes and goes, chest pain(muscle related hopefully) had echocardiogram

and several EKGs all normal, minor anxiety which may or may not be causing the airhunger and random racing heart, I get dizzy alot though that is something new, sometimes chills, and my knees, wrist, and elbows hurt.

I had a huge list of symptoms when I first joined this forum but these are the ones I still get. I am pretty deconditioned though I try to do light weight exercises 2 days a week but I used to go the gym 5 days a

week and run 3 days a week.
Posted 12/13/2013 6:25 PM (GMT -5)
6 weeks of treatment is very little. 6 months seems to be the minimum and it could take years but that's usually for people who have been infected for a long time.

As Trav said, at some point if you feel there's no improvement then you can look into treating through natural means. I feel the best LLMD's will not just prescribe abx but will also give you herbals along with them.
Posted 12/13/2013 7:35 PM (GMT -5)
I have a follow up with my LLMD on Monday. She is a regular doctor as well as a Hollistic doctor so Il see what she has to say about not improving. Personally I think its the ceftin not being strong enough.
Posted 12/13/2013 8:30 PM (GMT -5)
Be sure that you give yourself plenty of time to heal - no matter how frustrating it may be. As much as I like you, once you are done with treatments, I would hate to see you back here because of a relapse! smhair

I would encourage you to read through Dr. Joseph Burrascano's paper, "Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease", as he says that in some cases, probenecid may need to be added to Ceftin to achieve the high blood levels needed to kill this bacteria. Although with the air hunger that you mentioned, you may have a Babesia infection which could be stopping the healing.

I'd sure be interested in what your LLMD has to say, if you wouldn't mind letting us know!
Posted 12/13/2013 9:11 PM (GMT -5)
Haha yes I have no problem telling you how Monday goes. That's a little scary to know that I potentially wasted 6 weeks on ceftin. I'm on

1500mg. And as much as this forum helps I would love to post a success story and never have to look for help again haha
Posted 12/13/2013 10:48 PM (GMT -5)
Really thinking about that ceftin comment now :/ hope I didn't waste all this time
Posted 12/14/2013 10:54 AM (GMT -5)
It's not a waste!! You may just need to add in another abx in order to get the desired effect. You would not have not known this had you not tried just the Ceftin first.
Posted 12/16/2013 8:08 PM (GMT -5)
Had my LLMD appointment today. Doc switched me back on to rifampin and doxy. Hope I can tolerate it. Pretty nervous. Have a

follow up in 2 months. If I don't get better probably have babesia but I really really hope not.
Posted 12/17/2013 10:53 AM (GMT -5)
Detox, detox, detox! That will help you tolerate those meds.

Let us know how you are doing, we might be able to help with some suggestions if you start to feel poorly!
Posted 1/3/2017 3:12 PM (GMT -5)
New here..HELP! Test results are as follows. Infectious Disease Doc says, negative for Lyme, but had in past and body cleared it's own infection. Have had NO treatment PRIOR to receiving these test results!

Lyme Disease Antibody IgG, WB, CQ (What's CQ mean in regards to this? )-Positive

Lyme Disease 18 kD IgG CQ-Reactive (Specific to Bb)

Lyme Disease 23 kD IgG CQ-Reactive (Specific to Bb)

Lyme Disease 28 kD IgG CQ-Reactive

Lyme Disease 30 kD IgG CQ-Reactive

Lyme Disease 39 kD IgG CQ-Reactive (Specific to Bb)

Lyme Disease 41 kD IgG CQ-Reactive (Specific to Bb???)

Lyme Disease 45 kD IgG CQ-Reactive (Erlichia?)

Lyme Disease 58 kD IgG CQ-Reactive

Lyme Disease 66 kD IgG CQ-Reactive

Lyme Disease 93 kD IgG CQ-Reactive (Specific to Bb)



Lyme Disease Antibody IgM, WB, CQ (What's CQ mean in regards to this?)-Negative

Lyme Disease 23 kD IgM CQ-NonReactive

Lyme Disease 39 kD IgM CQ-NonReactive

Lyme Disease 41 kD IgM CQ-NonReactive

Lyme Disease Antibody TOTAL EIA- LymeAbScrCQ- >5.00 <------IS THIS CONSIDERED HIGH???? The Reference reads <=.90

Now this was Quest Diagnostics..so they didn't run Strains 31 & 34, since CDC removed those two SPECIFIC for Bb strains, after blowing it with "LymeRix" and infecting people with them via the Vaccine, therefore people being able to prove that by testing Positive for those two strains..so of course, to not get caught, they just removed them from the standard WB Testing! Also, they were coming up with too many Positives and didn't want "found out" that way either!
Posted 1/3/2017 3:36 PM (GMT -5)
Welcome, TerryBoo!

I'm assuming you have symptoms consistent with Lyme disease...and that's why you had the testing done?

Lyme specific antibodies showing up on IgG can be an active infection, just an older infection.

If you have never had treatment, and have symptoms, then it looks to me like you should be seeking out a LLMD for an evaluation and treatment.

We encourage all new members to take a look through the "new to Lyme?..Start Here!" thread that sits at the top of the page...lots of useful information in that thread.
Posted 1/3/2017 4:00 PM (GMT -5)
Most Infectious Disease Doctors (unless they are Lyme Literate) - even if he does finally admit you have lyme disease...will most likely not treat you effectively...with the right antibiotics and doses high enough to 'do the job'.

If you need help finding a LLMD, we can help you. Just start a new thread titled: "Looking for LLD in/near____" and fill in the blank.
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