Detox bath not too hot, why??

I have a few questions about a detox bath to help me understand the process.

1) They are not to be too hot because they kill the Lyme and can cause a herx. Isn't that the goal of detox baths? Kill the Lyme...

2) For 98 degrees, does that mean it kills only some of the Lyme so you can manage the herx? If that's true, my thinking is that after a few weeks of the baths, would it be a bad idea to slowly increase the temp since the detox pathways are used to flushing out your body ane now you will be less likely to herx compared with when you first started a few weeks ago?

3) If your body can handle higher temps eventually, wouldn't this be good for you since you will be killing more Lyme?

Thanks

Denise, does the body have no excretion system for eliminating toxins so that once the toxins are flowing in our bodies they will stay there forever? Or does the body have a way to get rid of the toxins naturally even if gradually?

I know; 98 was too cold for me, but I'm doing great with a warm, not hot, bath. I never increased the temperature to hot. I noticed on my own that hot baths made me feel awful, even if they felt good in the long run.

Way back, when I was dxed with Fibromyalgia, my FM doctor told me not to take hot baths (but lukewarm).

I think these are some of the reasons the bath shouldn't be hot:

Most of have Dysautonomia, and a hot bath will make those symptoms worse, increasing your heart rate and blood pressure, and then, when you stand up, causing your blood pressure to plummet. Warm baths do not do this.

In general, heat is a stressor, and will cause your heart rate and blood pressure to go higher than normal.

Heat activates the spirochetes (it doesn't kill them), and the more active the spirochetes, the worse you're going to feel.

If my baths are too cool, I don't enjoy them, and I lose the incentive to take them, so I use water that's a bit warmer than what's suggested. By all means though, do not take hot baths.

Margaret

Hi cppoly,

In the New to Lyme Sticky thread, it does not say that hydrogen peroxide kills bacteria, it says lyme spirochetes do not like hydrogen peroxide and the reason for that is hydrogen peroxide oxygenates the blood and body when combined with epsom salts and lyme bacteria do not thrive well in oxygen. 

As far as your other question regarding if our bodies detox naturally, sadly no.  I believe they do a tiny bit but we don't live in a perfect world, especially today's world with everything going on, oil spills in the oceans, radiation from Japan (there are no borders), etc.   Everything around us has toxins and we absorb these toxins through our skin (also called our 3rd kidney), we breathe them in, and the list goes on. 

You may find the article below interesting:

http://myscienceacademy.org/2012/09/22/how-your-body-gets-rid-of-toxins-naturally/

Hope this helps,

Denise

It all depends what your immediate goal is. If you have insufferable symptoms and desperately need relief, then, by all means, do NOT make the water too hot, as this will cause accelerated die-off and create even more toxin release into your body. If your symptoms are mild, and you want to push the envelope a bit, then you may desire to accelerate the overall process by slowly raising the temperature of your bath water. You will still detox, but you will also be accelerating the die-off of the bacteria. You may also notice that your symptoms may become worse if you do not detox effectively.

Here is a link to a "protocol" that I devised to eliminate my daughter's hypersensitivity in her right arm when she was sick. Failure to exactly follow my recommendations may result in failure, and/or may make you feel a lot worse than before you tried the protocol. Beware. some members have attempted to take shortcuts and have experienced both of these outcomes. On the other hand, my daughter's longstanding hypersensitivity was quickly, completely, and permanently eliminated.

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2722003


Consideration of the results of this experiment (see link) along with several other factors that I expressed in my protocol explanation provided the basis for my approach. I didn't use silver, but instead used other antimicrobials of my own choice.

http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy/bath.html


Don

Post Edited (Heathersdad) : 1/4/2014 9:52:18 PM (GMT-7)

Pretty much. In order to raise our body temps high enough to kill all of the Lyme bacteria, our brains wouldn't do so well.

I think, although I don't have much to back me up on this (just not enough research), that as the 'top layer' of bacteria die off, those that are deeper move up and are in a position to be affected by our efforts as well. When we detox well enough by doing all that we can and our bodies aren't having issues with detoxing, then we begin to make progress.

Of course the bacteria also 'cycle' through our bodies so that they can get to the blood stream to replicate and that's where we can really kill off large amounts of those little buggars!!