Air hunger?

I don't consider breathlessness from exertion air hunger. I've been out of breath from simply walking a few blocks or washing shampoo out of my hair. That I believe is from Bart as I've seen breathlessness as a symptom.

I've had classic hunger as well though not often where my breathing is not as good and I'm constantly sighing and I haven't exerted myself at all. That is probably Babs.

I left the gym at 3pm and still have the "air hunger" symptom. By that I mean I feel like breathing isn't satisfying and my lungs burn slightly. It's now 1030pm and it's still like this idk what I did to make this come back after so many months of not having it

Sounds more like Babs than Bart but there's another co-infection with similar symptoms just to confuse you more called Protomyxzoa Rheumatica. It can cause air hunger, cough and bladder issues which you seem to have.

Is there a way to get a basic babs Bart Proto test from igenex without spending a bazillion dollars. Can I get my doctor to order it for me so insurance covers it or something?

Glad it's gone!

Our daughter tested negative for babesia with Igenex and never had a babesia symptom. They were all bartonella (which she tested positive for).

Her first air hunger symptoms (chest pressure, sighing and sometime coughing) showed up when we were increasing WoodLandEssence's CSA (cryptolepis/sida/alchornea) tincture. They came and went during the day, gradually declining until her next dosage (don't need to hit me over the head too hard).

I had added cryptolepis to Buhner's bartonella protocol on a whim because some of her psych symptoms responded well to malarone during abx treatment. Malarone never did cause any kind of herx for her.

I have pretty much given up on the idea that a positive test for anything is needed to identify infection. There are so many strains of bacteria/virus/protozoa that have yet to be identified, let alone have a proper test in place for.

If you are herxing on any new protocol it's probably because something is dying off. For us a babesia-like herx with cryptolepis probably means a protozoan of some type is involved. We will now pursue protozoa, even though we have a negative babs result.

Tindamax will hit you hard.

Our daughter ended up having to pulse tindamax because she couldn't recover from the herx without a break. With all other multiple abx (and the various combos) she was able to detox after a week or so with epsom salt baths/lemon water/psyllium supplementation; but not tindamax.

We ended up pulsing 3 days on 4 days off for several months. The herxes started hard, but with each successive herx the die-off was less, until at the end she wasn't herxing with pulses at all.

At this point we quit abx and started Buhner's full bart protocol (to which I have now added CSA). That was last April and she is doing great!

If you are the Tbrown2 that is posting on another forum about starting Will Wegman, this along with tindamax may be inadvertantly causing a babesia/protozoan herx as well.  Please don't think that because the herbals used in this protocol are natural that they won't cause significant die-off.