How many spirochetes do you see in your vision?

needhelp4,

this is normal, it goes with high myopia. I have -10, which is pretty severe. I have tons of floaters, white flashes.

Found this: 'Over time, the vitreous gel shrinks and may detach from the retina. The pulling can cause tiny amounts of bleeding. This is a common cause of floaters in people who are very nearsighted or who have had a cataract operation.'

Thining of the retina is also common for people with severe myopia. You can find a lot about that on the internet.

What I'm saying is that what you see are not bacteria. Spirochetes are far too small to be seen by the eye (even a light microscope can not see them most of the time), their length is as long as the diameter of a very fine hair. Just imagine how tiny they are...
What you see are shadows of tiny clumps of gel or cells inside the vitreous humor, the clear jelly-like fluid that fills the inside of your eye.

The things you are seeing are specifically normal for high myopic patients, like both of us. It is important for you (and me, I do it at least every year) to get your eyes checked every now and then.
When you feel that you have a sudden increase in flashes or floaters, please make an urgent appointment with your ophtalmologist. Just to be sure. Your retina could be detaching. That is what I'm doing myself. At least once a year, I get worried because of an increase of flashes. I call the hospital and can go the same day, sometimes within the hour. They take it serious when they know that you are severely myopic.
We, with high myopia, need to be alert for sudden changes.

MarieLS

Huh that is funny, makes sense though. I am, well I was a -7.00, after being treated my vision improved to -6.25 but I also had the floaters and such. I still get floaters and still an occasional string but much less then it was. It probably does have to do with how bad your vision is. Mine = quite bad!

I have near perfect vision, opthamologist confirmed but I have an excessive amount of floaties. Last appointment not too long ago. Any ideas on that?

I know this is an old post, but it is one of the only posts that I've found on spirochetes in the eyes. The reason people can see the spirochetes is that we are seeing an enhanced reflection off the retina which is actually a shadow of the spirochete and cysts.

When I am exposed to bright light and then look at a blank (bright) white area such as a lit ceiling or a white background on a tablet, you can actually see the shape so clearly. I see the spiral form with cysts on them. I see cysts with a tail every so small coming out of one end. I see other fibers too, but the spirochetes are clear as day and in so many forms. Some of the spirochetes have multiple cyst forms attached to them. They move around quickly in the fluid of the eye.

I was wondering if anyone actually got rid of the spirochetes completely after treatment. I am only three months into my treatment. I can't wear contacts anymore. Is there any particular meds that would be most effective for the eyes?

Stephania is great for the eyes.

buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/stephania-eyewash/

And, even if not interested in the herb, one might be interested to read the questioner's description of her eye issues - they sound very much like what's being discussed here.

Hi Lyme Everywhere

Although Lyme can and does affect the eyes, it is not possible to see the bacteria.
What you are seeing are floaters.

I wrote this before in this very same thread: Spirochetes are far too small to be seen by the eye (even a light microscope can not see them most of the time), their length is as long as the diameter of a very fine hair. Just imagine how tiny they are...
What you see are shadows of tiny clumps of gel or cells inside the vitreous humor, the clear jelly-like fluid that fills the inside of your eye.

The size of a spirochete varies, but is so small you simply can not see them.
www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gold/pdfs/Borrelia.pdf
To study them, a dark field microscopy or high voltage electron microscopy is needed.

MarieLS

I would agree that what you are seeing simply can't be the bacteria itself - the bacteria is much too small to be seen without the aid of special microscopes - even if the bacteria is in the eye, which can happen.

As to your asking if it goes away, yes. I have healed and although I do have some floaters (most people do see them), they are greatly reduced and it's only occasionally that I see them now.

Hi! I just wanted to say that I DO see the spirochetes in my vision - I don't know how it is possible, but I do! I am a Biology teacher and have an advanced degree. I am not ignorant of bacterial size. If I stare into a lit blank sky (sun behind me) I see hundreds of MOVING spirals - tiny - in different directions and at different speeds. The spirals actually spiral as they move. They are not opaque, but looks like microscope images, sort of clear in the center, darker outlines - much like floaters (which I also have, but my floaters don't move unless I move my eyes so that they move with my movement only and they are much bigger and fiber-like). When I have been recently treated with antibiotics, they go away - all thats left are a number of immobile "uncoiled" - straight- lines. By the way, I have also been diagnosed with narrow angles in both eyes (specifically more in right). Wondering if Lyme infection can cause that? As a result, they watch my pressures carefully to avoid a Glaucoma-like attack. My pressures have never been bad.

I had noticed more floaters recently on my right eye (about 10), enough to notice. After I started Doxy, and now herbs they have gone down to 1-2.

Astroman - you describe that in such a funny manner I couldn;t help laughing, but MY Goodness - that must have been HORRIBLE! Did you ever find out what caused the loss of vision like that? How are your retinas? Optical nerve? Loss of vision scares me ad I am being monitored regularly for all that

Hmm....that is very interesting, indeed. There should be some anti parasitic type drops specifically for the eyes. Or just something to strengthen the optic nerves, retinas....and not just have to wait for something drastic to happen and then have to rely on laser surgery or whatever......this is complicated and scarey to me as I have been told my retinas are extremely thin as are my optic nerves.

very cool Trav. Will have o look that up- Thanks!
BTW. Have you had another 10 full hours sleep like you had months ago? What I would do just for 4 hours straight sleep!