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Posted 6/15/2014 6:35 PM (GMT -5)
I had the strangest reaction to pasta and bread the other night, I thought I was having a stroke or something...I made regular pasta the other night for dinner, and we also ate garlic bread with it. Half way through dinner I got really tired, extremely tired, then all of a sudden I could hardly move my mouth. I staring slurring my speech to the extent my husband couldn't understand a word of what I said. Afraid and confused, I went to lay down and literally passed out for 4 hours. I woke up and I was myself again...

One of my neuro symptoms has been slurred speech, but never to that extent. Has this happened to anyone? Was it the carbs or the gluten? I ate gluten free all week, but just wanted a little "normal" pasta for dinner. I guess gluten-free will be my new normal?

This really scared me and my hubby and he doesn't scare easily. Any thoughts would be appreciated....
Oh yes, Happy Fathers Day to any dads reading this :-)
Posted 6/15/2014 7:02 PM (GMT -5)
It's hard to say. You very well could've reacted to the gluten. My husband developed a sensitivity to it pretty fast and now has to avoid it. He doesn't have Lyme, though. My daughter and I both feel better if we don't eat a lot of carbs Our brains feel very sluggish if we do.

Have you tried Tinkyada pasta? It's just like wheat pasta. We've fed it to people who didn't know it was rice pasta and they never knew. If you should decided to have garlic bread again, make it from a true sourdough bread instead of just white flour bread. It sounds like you won't be interested in doing it again any time soon, though and that would probably be best.
Posted 6/15/2014 7:53 PM (GMT -5)
Are you hypoglycemic or diabetic? Have your blood sugar tested, and make certain you do a fasting blood sugar test.

It could be gluten, but that's also a lot of carbs. At the least, you should be eating some form of protein with it.

borderlyme, depending on how severe a gluten sensitivity is, sourdough bread will still make you sick; it's still gluten. Plus, the culture gets killed in the oven anyway. It's healthy otherwise; I think you still get a little bit of the culture.

No gluten is no gluten.

Otherwise, you may want to try whole wheat pasta, brown rice, freshly made whole-wheat bread, etc.

Any kind of grain makes me really sick, but it messes up my stomach, which is not what you mentioned. Healthier carbs include honey, maple syrup (to a certain extent), bananas, sweet potatoes, squash, and most fruits, except for grapes and pineapples.

Margaret
Posted 6/15/2014 7:54 PM (GMT -5)
PS, Carbs turn to sugar fairly rapidly. Look for recipes with a low Glycemic Index.

M
Posted 6/15/2014 8:08 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks guys. It could very well be a sugar thing, I'll have it checked again. They tested it last in December. It really was scary!!
Posted 6/15/2014 8:10 PM (GMT -5)
its weird because I think the symptoms can change over the course of treatment. I had stroke like symptoms also and was inflammation in the brain, inflammation of the nerves, which led to me pursuing lyme. sounds like you may have something similar with whatever nerve affected that impacts your mouth or speech. it could also be the gluten. Ive read that if you stop eating gluten and then try to go back, your body can no longer process it. Once you go gluten free, you may have to ease back into gluten if at all..
Posted 6/15/2014 8:48 PM (GMT -5)
GMO grains can cause problems for people too, so the wheat may have been that.

True sourdough goes through a long fermentation, so it's easier to digest than non sourdough. My daughter isn't bothered by sourdough, unless it's the fake sourdough, but she is bothered by regular yeast bread.

Grains in general impact the brain.
Posted 6/15/2014 9:08 PM (GMT -5)
I will definitely ask the doc when I see him at the end of the month...I can also ask the doc, Dr. R, on Wednesday night Eastern time at the webinar. Is anyone else attending? He seems very knowledgeable, although I am not sure if he is really up on nutrition much.
Posted 6/16/2014 2:20 PM (GMT -5)
louise74
I am curious as to which protocol for Lyme treatment you are following?
Posted 6/16/2014 3:04 PM (GMT -5)
To continue with the sugar thing, Lyme feeds on sugar. Refined carbs do convert to sugar.

Margaret
Posted 6/16/2014 3:10 PM (GMT -5)
And I love sugar!! Those stupid Lyme germs were just begging me to eat more sugar....how they must have been in their glory the night I ate the pasta and bread!! They were probably doing the jig (sorry, my sense of humor is warped. At least this stupid disease has left something intact, considering walking, talking, writing and swallowing have been impaired!)
Posted 6/16/2014 3:22 PM (GMT -5)
Real quick: my cat slowly died over a period of a few weeks. It took its toll immediately and I became ill shortly thereafter. I had other stressful events in the same period. Possibly exposed to mold as a trigger in this time too.

A bunch of symptoms came out but I thought I was having a stroke. I got an MRI about a month later which confirmed inflammation in my cranial nerves and was diagnosed with bells palsy. My doctor immediately suspected lyme or a brain infection. But all came out clear. After a series of toxic reactions to medications soon thereafter and a spiral in health, I found a LLND and was diagnosed with lyme.

The weird thing is that my body seems to reject most medicines now. So I am on the AL complex, silver and sweet annie for possible babesia.

No one seems to believe me that a few pills, spinal tap and dying cat could make me this sick.. but oh yes.
Posted 6/16/2014 4:44 PM (GMT -5)
Louise:
Well, you did have a nasty critter called Lyme in your system, too!!
The other things were what put you over the edge...and let the Lyme take over.

re: going off gluten, then adding it. When my son was diagnosed with Celiac, he didn't have very many symptoms. Since being off gluten, if he accidentally ingests gluten now...lookout! He has stomach upset, diarrhea...the body got used to being poisoned before and wasn't reacting...but once it got healthy...it really screamed when he added the poison back in.
Interesting.
Posted 6/17/2014 10:12 PM (GMT -5)
Louise, so sorry about your cat (and you too, of course)!

Danna, what did you decide to do?

Margaret
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