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Posted 3/19/2015 8:33 AM (GMT -5)
Hi all - I'm new to the Lyme world - thought I was only dealing with Hashimoto's for a long while, but after not getting better, did Lyme testing and lo and behold...

I have a LLMD who I like and trust so far. We have started abx - doxy and zithromax to start. I'm having some difficult herxes (worsening fatigue, vision issues, really bad brain fog) and since I work full time and have a two year old, this is very hard to deal with.

So..my LLMD suggested we try the detox portion of the Cowdon protocol along with the abx. He called the distributer of the herbs and asked if this was ever done, and apparently Dr. H does this regularly.

Other options are IV vitamin C and glutothione, but I want to try and avoid that expense if necessary.

Anyone have success trying this?
Posted 3/19/2015 10:59 AM (GMT -5)
Welcome Hazelsmama!

I take the Cowden detox tinctures and antibiotics. They greatly help, but you will likely need more detox methods! There are many, many ways to detox. Check out the "New to Lyme" thread at the top if the forum for tons of valuable info, especially on detox methods.

I detox a lot because my body has a hard time with antibiotics. Some of the methods I use are lemon water, Alka Seltzer Gold (not the regular formula), detox teas, such as Yogi, apple cider vinegar (go slowly if you don't know whether you have Candida or if you do - good for alkalinity and Lyme detox too), activated charcoal., Epsom salt baths. Make sure you look into detox methods. Everyone's body is different.

These methods are very affordable compared to IV options. Try to read as much as you can about Lyme and co and detoxing. It will pay off. It helps me a lot to continuously stay on top of detoxing. It can help prevent herxing. :)
Posted 3/19/2015 11:05 AM (GMT -5)
Thank you Lymie Girl! I've tried a few methods - lemon in water, detox tea, and the epson/hydrogen peroxide baths. I'm hoping to avoid IV options because I called to get pricing and ouch! This is an expensive disease!
Posted 3/19/2015 11:24 AM (GMT -5)
I agree!!! It is very expensive. I'm with ya Hazelsmama!

I try to research everything I use and spend my money wisely. It helps trying one new thing at a time. Otherwise, it is hard to tell whether it is beneficial or not.

If I'm not sure about a product, I sometimes start with buying a lower quantity to make sure I like it. Sometimes there are cheaper alternatives. And more expensive does not always mean better!!!
Posted 3/19/2015 2:07 PM (GMT -5)
Yes, lots of people use just the detox herbs from Cowden- parsley, pinella, and burbur. Personally, burbur is my favorite. It really works. The other two do less for me.
Posted 3/21/2015 5:32 PM (GMT -5)
I got the herbs in the mail today - my LLMD sent Parsley and Burbur. I've looked at the Cowden protocol, but I'm not sure how to take the herbs since I'm not doing the other parts of the protocol. Do I just use them when I'm herxing? Daily? My doc didn't send instructions...
Posted 3/21/2015 9:02 PM (GMT -5)
Hazelsmama,

You can take them at least 1 to 2 hours before antibiotics or 2 hours afterwards. At first, I took them not too long prior to antibiotics. It did not work as well. They need time to work before you take your antibiotics or other antimicrobials.

If your sensitive, start out slowly by putting a few drops in a glass of water. Let it sit for a minute. Then, drink. Haha.

10-15 drops of each is the norm. I take it twice a day. You can take it more frequenty to reduce a herx. You can adjust the frequency to your program. Maybe check with your doc the next time to see how frequently he / she wants you to take it. I think twice is fairly normal.
Posted 3/21/2015 9:28 PM (GMT -5)
hi,

I'm on the full Cowden protocol. You can use the detox tinctures 30 min before meals. 1 Before or 2 after antibiotics.

The one's I like the most for a herx are pinella and burbur. Everyone is different, but this combo works for me. 10 drops each in 1/4 cup of water every 10 minutes until herx is gone. Works great!

You can order the meds yourself for cheaper through Amazon. around $15 to $17 each.

Lymegirl,
thanks for the tips above!
Posted 3/21/2015 9:44 PM (GMT -5)
Always happy to help my fellow Lymies Leilex! :)

I get mine on Amazon too. Just be careful. Recently, I got a Parsley that looks completely clear. I think it is fake. That being said, most of the supplements I have ordered on Amazon have been legit. Just make sure you promptly check your order.

You can check with the manufacturer to see if the third party seller on
Posted 3/21/2015 9:46 PM (GMT -5)
Always happy to help my fellow Lymies Leilex! :)

I get mine on Amazon too. Just be careful. Recently, I got a Parsley that looks completely clear. I think it is fake. That being said, most of the supplements I have ordered on Amazon have been legit. Just make sure you promptly check your order just in case.

You can check with the manufacturer to see if the third party seller on Amazon is authorized. For the most part, I have not had issues.

Also, iHerb sells the Cowden protocol. I have never ordered from them. There may be other alternatives as well.
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