stomach pain relief?/and questions regarding cause

does anyone have ideas of how to help find, get, relief of stomach/gut pain while treating.

My son, using herbs for lyme and bart. has been having some more tummy pains lately.

The llmd said we might see increased stomach pain, as a bart. herx, when the dose was upped for him.

Well, I don't know if it's that exactly but something has made the stomach pains increase, and as we treat I'm wondering, looking for ideas to help with that pain.

Also, I've wondered if his tummy pain was strep related.

he went from having 2-4 tummy aches a month, to having about 5 a week right around the 3rd week of April.
Two things happened at that time.
1: is strep went through his class at school, with non-typical symptoms that included stomach aches instead of sore throats.
2: about a week after that we did up the bart herbs just a bit (not much!) and started giving them regularly. llmd said, this might cause stomach aches.

BUT, he's been on amoxicillin for 10 days now (and counting) b/c of a possible new tick bite. And, sometimes I wonder if I'm seeing something I want to see, but I think his stomach pains have been less since on the abx, and wonder if the increase was due to strep stomach aches. The timing of the increase fits.

But they're not all gone, and still actually more than before, just maybe less than the past two months.

anyway, got sidetracked from my original question, but if you have any thought about stomach aches from bart or strep, let me know. Thanks!

I just keep thinking about how something changed….I don't know exactly what, again maybe the increase in herbs and so a herx, maybe strep (but wouldn't 10 days of amoxicillin get rid of that ) or what?????

but even last year, at his worst, his tummy aches weren't like this, so often and at any time of the day. They were in the morning mostly.

sometimes I wonder about yeast? but he doesn't really have other yeast symptom stuff.

Thanks for letting me think out loud and for any thoughts!

Post Edited (stacestar) : 6/16/2015 10:25:42 PM (GMT-6)

thanks for replying Bellyfull!

I was wondering the same thing, about if strep was involved if maybe it's harder for lyme people to shake it off than for someone without lyme. I've heard dr. K say in an article or interview, that he believes strep sometimes piggy backs on lyme (or something like that) goes along for the ride when come into contact with, if I'm explaining it right, or understanding him right.

His appetite is about the same. He does seem hungry a lot, but then again he's growing boy. No different foods really, and his BMs are normal.

My husband wants him tested for parasites and from what I read, those can cause trouble for lyme people, so we'll have him tested even though I've read those tests are unreliable.

But still, something seemed to cause an increase at a certain time and so I wonder about either the herxing or strep. hmm.

In This article the doctor has alot to say...here is the main point.."Personally, I would try the experiment". <doctors words at bottom of article.
healthimpactnews.com/2012/virgin-coconut-oil-and-stomach-acid/

Here are some ways to give him the coconut oil...if you choose.
wellnessmama.com/8858/eat-more-coconut-oil/

*or maybe blending it in sugar-free pudding?

Hope this helps :)

Post Edited (Bellyfull) : 6/17/2015 6:50:33 AM (GMT-6)

Stacestar,
My son had a lot of stomach issues too and what helped him was ginger..

Capsules
Tea
Freshly grated
Ground

My go to remedy was green tea, ground ginger, lemon juice and a bit of stevia..poured over ice...

This always seemed to give him relief, never heard of coconut oil helping....that would have been easier!

Hope he feels better soon..

I had to look up monolaurin because i did not know what it was...
Awesome stuff! So glad your going to add that back in... let us know how he does :)

Hi Carlosjii - welcome to our community!

This forum is a great place for support, and information. We have so many caring and knowledgeable people here.

You might be interested in reading the "New to Lyme?...start Here!" thread at the top of the page. It's full of great information - symptom lists, info on probiotics, detoxing suggestions, and much more.

I hope you keep reading, posting...and feel free to ask any questions. We'll do our best to answer them.

When my daughter had strep, she always threw up. We would know it was strep because she never threw up otherwise. She did the whole abx routine, but eventually went on rifampin and the strep stopped.

I am positive for Lyme, but neither of my kids has been testes. My daughter is 23 now with no symptoms. My son is 16 with the vague symptoms that don't point to anything. They both had chronic ear infections and chronic strep. My daughter had two years of abx and then rifampin for a long time. My son off and on.

But I agree with Borderline, all of us have food sensitivities and that causes belly pain and other GI symptoms. The worst offenders can be eggs (especially the whites), dairy protein (casein not lactose), soy, wheat and nuts. A lot of time these are in other products. With dairy, my reaction was like clockwork. Almost exactly two hours after having ice cream, it all came up after having stomach pains. Soy gives me very bad belly pains until it too violently left my body. Egg whites which were my go to protein, just gave me very bad belly pains that lasted sometimes for days. It also sets you up to have other things bother you.

It's not just those things, you can really react to anything. It just depends on how you body is at the time. I just watched a clip of a John Oates interview when he talked about noticing he was allergic to more things. He specifically mentioned celery which is bizarre. The immune system sees things as foreign and attacks. If it's in over drive, it can react to anything.

I have noticed that since I stay away from dairy, soy and eggs my belly pains have stopped. I do know that if I go out to dinner and order a steak, if they put pepper on it I get sick. Balsamic vinegar I have the same issue. Spices can be a big problem.

Good luck,
Kim