gonna take a leap of faith.

First of all, know that no one can tell you when or if you will herx. Some people have a body that can detox well and just don't herx - but they will begin to see improvements in their symptoms though. But we still can't tell you how long that will take - likely within 2 months though.

Be sure you are helping your body to detox first. Remember that as these bacteria die, they release toxins. Most of us have bodies that have trouble detoxing well enough to keep up with the demand that we will create as we start treatments, so we have to be detoxing well before we start whenever possible. You need to have as many detox pathways working as you can, so you need to use many methods of detoxing.

Start off with just one drop of Japanese Knotweed once a day. Stay on that for 3 days to a week, depending on how you do. Then raise it to 2 drops per day - one am and one pm. Stay at that dose for a few days. Then add in a third drop midday and stay at that dose for a few days to see how you do. Continue on building up the dose like that, one drop at a time and staying at that dose each time for a few days.

I like to suggest that people get up to about 10 drops then hold that dose and start the next herb - usually cat's claw. That is started in the same manner as the Japanese knotweed and increase the dose in the same manner.

When you are up to 10 drop of the cat's claw, and 10 drops of the Japanese knotweed, that's when you will add in the Eleuthero - the same as you have done with the other two herbs.

And yes, I would leave the astragalus alone, at least for now. If you don't seem to have much issues with herxing or the protocol, then you can try astragalus, but for now, just use the rest of the protocol.

For drawing your blood, you can have any lab do it for you - check with your local hospital.

And you're not all alone - you have us!! Many of us have had to 'go it alone' as well, and we are here to give you tips and help you along the way. Keep looking for that LLMD though! They are good to have! Or even a really, really good herbalist would help.

No, Vitamin B and C would be good. Most of us need to take methylated B-12 (methylcobalamin). If you do start to feel worse after starting the B-12, that can be an indicator of gene mutations and you needing a different type. So if you start to feel worse after starting it, just stop it and let us know. We can explain the next steps then,.

Remember to not start more than one thing at a time and give each thing a few days before starting something else new - that way you know how you reacted to what.

Some Lab Corp offices will draw the blood and send it to where ever you wish! Just ask them before going in. Same thing with the hospital.

Find out if the Herbalist has worked with Buhner's protocol before. If not, ask if they would be willing to, and have it ready for the Herbalist to look at if you have a smart phone or tablet. If they are willing to educate themselves on it, they can be a big help to you and to many others!! Remember that Buhner has several books if your Herbalist is interested.

And let us know how things go!!

I think most of us go through that being a little scared and a little excited. Hang in there!!

oh my goodness.I just read the lemon water thing.I did that for 2 weeks and ran out of lemons...I actually felt pretty good after that too.not 100% but noticeably better...i just did it for blood pressure lol.
i plan on detoxing by dry skin brushing,Charcoal pills or baths,epsom salt baths,lemon water and possibly apple cider vinegar,What else would be good?Im reading these off of tiredoflyme.com lol all i drink is water.So i drink enough water to fill kiddy pool probobly lol.I have also noticed when i eat something really sugary like a natures valley peanut bar thing a few hours later my drugged out of my head feeling gets a lot worse for a little bit.just some insight on that lol
Thank you so much for everything you do again.

Hello & good luck..

I have also did buhner started small and then went big.

Just to let you know....I've reacted strongly to houtynnia and sida acuta....so if you go through rought period with the nuero symptoms....i would suggest watch the dosage of these 2...

besides that...if you start slow and raise up..

i'm sure you will begin to have a great intuition on the herbs. remember to watch for side effects, adjust dosage as necessary.

good luck!

Ghost - side acuta is part of Buhners Bartonella and Babesia protocols.

Houttuynia is also part of Buhners Bart protocol.

JK, CC and Eleuthero are for Lyme.

If you don't see any improvement on them, you can always add in more herbs...even ones that treat Bart and/or Babs.
But you do need to give it time to work.

I don't think it would affect your Igenex test adversely.

If anything some of Buhner's herbs support immune function...so it could even help. If our immune system is functioning better, then it can produce antibodies.

ghost93 said...
lol im sure of it lol.One more question will any of this mess with my blood test by chance?like make it harder to show or anything like that?

If we are still talking about detoxing methods, no. No detoxing methods that are listed on our site or the tiredofLyme site will mess with the testing. The tests are looking for antibodies and the detoxing helps eliminate toxins - two very different things.

ghost93 said...
I have also noticed when i eat something really sugary like a natures valley peanut bar thing a few hours later my drugged out of my head feeling gets a lot worse for a little bit.just some insight on that lol

Ugh - I have to admit I like those things too! I can't tell you when the last time it was when I had one though. If you have a peanut allergy or a sensitivity or if you have Candida, it would certainly make you feel that way!! My best advice is to stay away from all sugar, high fructose corn syrup and all those things - and peanuts until you can verify that you don't have a sensitivity or allergy to them anyway. The sugars will all encourage Candida, so you need to just stay away from all of them. Many use natural sweeteners such as stevia or xylitol - just remember that these are much, MUCH sweeter than regular white sugar and you will only need a very, very small amount compared to regular sugar. Stevia is 300 times sweeter than sugar.

You should be able to find an LLMD in your area, and they will provide you an igenex test. It's worth doing.

Lemon water is very good for detox. I do it every night. Actually, that's all I've been doing for detox.

I was doing epson salt baths, but it dried it my skin pretty bad, given that it's winter.

"If this in fact lyme will i have to change my diet forever? or just until i feel better:("

You will have only be really strict with it while you are treating - but you will need to continue to be very, very choosy about what foods you eat from now on as you need to keep your immune system functioning very well in order to keep yourself healthy.

"Is it possible for it to make you feel better without even treating yet lol?" - I assume you are talking about the lemon water? Yes, to a point because you are helping your body get rid of the toxins that have built up in your body due to these infections, the water, the food that we all eat.

Lyme is in the middle of a huge political fight, so every little thing is being disputed and many doctors are afraid to have anything to do with it.

LOL! You're very welcome, Ghost!! And you're right - it's not too bad.