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Posted 3/14/2016 9:57 AM (GMT -5)
Where can I fit this in? Does anyone know if it interacts with antibiotics, probiotics, herbs/supplements? I am getting sick, and want to take this, I have been avoiding because I'm not sure about interactions.

I didn't realize my antibiotics couldn't be taken with food...would this be one of the cause why my numbers are still high after 5 months of meds? Trying to add food into spacing meds/herbs is making me crazy!

Also...my vitamin d levels are at 93...maybe this is why I've felt pretty good, however it's high. Where should we be at with an active ongoing infection? I don't want to scale back on dosage, but don't want to keep going up. I increased from 55 to 93 in 4 months.

How much milk thistle do you take?

Thank you all for your help. I am thankful for this group.
Posted 3/14/2016 10:15 AM (GMT -5)
My husband makes my smoothies and he puts EVERYTHING in it, including bone broth and apple cider vinegar and the list is horrendous and its tastes good. Not like a sugary smoothie though.

I had to take pain meds for a knee surgery once and it said to avoid stomach issues, take with food. I had to take those pills every 3 hours! I called my doctor and said "I am going to weigh a million pounds if I eat every 3 hours! I can't eat that much!" He said that taking those pills with just 2 crackers constituted "food." So, if I were you, I would ask your doctor or pharmacist what they consider food.

Medical assistance are a good source of information. They hear what the doctor says to every patient and they know a lot if they are good. So you might just ask the doctors nurse.
Posted 3/14/2016 10:25 AM (GMT -5)
Thanks PeteZa! My dr said its minerals (especially dairy, and supplements such as magnesium) that interfere with some meds, she said to wait at least 1/2 hour but to go longer if I could.

Your smoothie sounds very healing! I'd be willing to take it!!
Posted 3/14/2016 10:30 AM (GMT -5)
If you drink just a splash of apple cider vinegar in water you should be able to drink it anytime of the day just like you would plain water.
Posted 3/14/2016 11:00 AM (GMT -5)
I use ACV twice daily, but the detoxing help is just a bonus for me, as I need it to help increase the acidity in my stomach so my food digests properly. So I take 1 & 1/2 - 2 tablespoons just before I eat in one cup of water.

On the milk thistle, just start off with one pill a day, and then build up to the dose on the bottle. It can create acne or other issues temporarily as it clears the toxins from the liver.
Posted 3/14/2016 11:30 AM (GMT -5)
Do you think the live enzymes from the acv can interact with antibiotics or that the antibiotics just cancel them out? Like if antibiotics are taken at the same time as probiotics?

How about vitamin d levels?

My milk thistle has 140 mg...I take one pill a day. Is that sufficient?

Thanks 😊
Posted 3/14/2016 12:15 PM (GMT -5)
I do a lot by how I feel as I don't have a doctor that will do much testing for me on Lyme related things.

You may want to consider starting a new thread asking about the milk thistle - or at least editing the title of this thread to indicate questions on milk thistle. Those that don't use ACV may still use milk thistle and could miss your questions.

I can't take milk thistle due to a rag weed allergy, so I'm not sure of "normal" doses. What I do know is that every time I need to do a liver cleanse (my way of dealing with things since I can't use milk thistle), I have a lot of pressure and some pain in my liver area. If you are not feeling this and you are getting regular blood tests checking liver values, then you are doing fine.

I have not had my Vitamin D levels checked since starting to use the ACV, but I can't find anything with a fairly quick search online about it interfering with Vit. D - I'll keep looking though, as I have to supplement with a high dose myself.

The ACV won't stay in your stomach long, so just don't take your abx at the very same time as you take the ACV - keep at least 20 minutes between them.
Posted 3/14/2016 2:34 PM (GMT -5)
Here's some info on optimal Vit D levels:

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/11/21/how-to-get-your-vitamin-d-to-healthy-ranges.aspx

Since Lyme is considered the infectious disease equivalent of cancer, your level of 93 fits right within the range recommended in the link.

You may be familiar with Dr. Burrascano, one of the ILADS co-founders. He included supplement recommendations in the guidelines he wrote in 2008. You'll see on page 31 here:

www.ilads.org/lyme/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

that he recommends 175mg milk thistle daily (and to use an 80% Silymarin extract)

Buhner recommends much higher doses for coinfection treatment.

I take 150mg milk thistle caps (80% Silymarin extract) 2x daily
Posted 3/14/2016 2:54 PM (GMT -5)
Great information Cd! Thank you for sharing it!

You take ACV still don't you? When do you take it? Do you believe or have you seen where it interferes with vitamin D absorption when taken too close together? I haven't been able to find much on this.
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