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Posted 4/19/2016 11:15 AM (GMT -5)
Need some opinions, please. I bought me a bag of Hydrolysed collagen (sourced from pasture-raised cows - brand's Bulletproof) on Friday. So have been on it for 4 days now. I have noticed that whenever I take it say at lunch, by late afternoon I am so bloated and so tired! Is this normal reaction and will it pass or what? I bought it for my joint problems which have been so sore and stiff.
Posted 4/19/2016 11:59 AM (GMT -5)
That is good stuff!!! I already went through a bag of it and now have 2 more bags. I also got 3 other kinds of collagen protein. I put it in my coffee in the morning and also mix it into my smoothies. It doesn't cause any bloating for me or any bad reactions whatsoever... It is good health protein.

So basically it is just easy to digest doesn't make me sick and seems to make me feel better.

The only theory I have is many your microbial load is high and it is also a easy source of protein for the bugs as well. Really that is just a theory I can make for you as I know Lyme likes collagen protein... And this is broken down collagen...
Posted 4/19/2016 12:03 PM (GMT -5)
LymePickle- interesting theory. Do you think that it'll increase the buggers then? It just REALLY seems to make me so tired and almost dizzy like. So glad it is working for you, though!
Posted 4/19/2016 1:49 PM (GMT -5)
Ya it's considered one of the best sources of protein with the least toxins, most easily digested, and it heals joints and connective tissue. But maybe you need to be taking some abx or something to keep the bacteria in check, or get your microbial load down more?

Ya if you get a reaction of being dizzy... That is toxins or waste products from the bacterial metabolism. It means you are feeding them a really good high quality source of protein.
Posted 4/19/2016 1:55 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks Lyme Pickle - how many times do you take it in a day then? It says 1x day on package. As for abx. yeah you right that I should take them but unfortunately my gut cannot handle them anymore - it's a mess. Maybe I should take half of the dose ( half of 1 tablespoon) recommended instead? I don't know. It was expensive and I just don't want to throw it out.
Posted 4/19/2016 5:39 PM (GMT -5)
Well I take 2 scoops in the morning in my coffee. When I make a smoothie, I also put 2 scoops in but I don't always make a smoothie.

Oh and one major benefit of collagen protein... It heals the gut! Yes it can heal leaky gut as well. It is abundant in bone broth too which is why that helps heal the gut and body so much. It is used to heal the kidneys, eyes, organs, skin, joints, ligaments, bones, basically all connective tissues. Collagen has 4 different types in the body... But overall collagen is the most abundant protein in the whole entire body. It is what gives everything in the body structure. I was watching a YouTube video on it just a few weeks ago.

Can you tolerate herbs? Or colloidal silver? Ozone? There are other eradication agents other than antibiotics. I actually plan on going the colloidal silver route now. The abx stopped working for me. First k will try using them in conjunction with each other.
Posted 4/19/2016 8:50 PM (GMT -5)
I just started taking collagen this week too (Great Lakes Hydrolyzed, green can) along with hyaluronic acid. Somewhere I came across this:

"EATING TOO MUCH GELATIN OR USING THE WRONG KIND FOR CAUSE DIGESTIVE UPSET—> CONSTIPATION, BLOATING AND LACK OF APPETITE. Eating too much too quickly can overwhelm your body, and do more harm than good. Start with a small serving 1/2-1 tablespoon per day and slowly increase your dose every few weeks as tolerated.

Chose a type of gelatin that fits your digestive abilities:
Strong digestion: regular gelatin, collagen hydrolysate, and bone broth
Weak digestion: collagen hydrolysate, bone broth
Very weak digestion: bone broth"

Maybe cut back and/or check to see the type you are using? I've been starting slow and haven't had any issues so far. I'm hoping this will help with my lyme arthritis :/
Posted 4/20/2016 12:13 AM (GMT -5)
2nd what optimus tic said...need for help how are you treating? Have you looked into bvt or frequency medicine?
Posted 4/20/2016 2:58 AM (GMT -5)
I dont have a response to your post Needhelp4....but I have been looking into purchasing some of this also. ***I would LOVE to hear responses from any other members who have experienced taking the hydrolyzed collagen if anyone else could chime in from experience please and in ways you think it has helped you!***


Optimistick: Ive had my eye on the the same kind you started this week. I am glad you mentioned the "green can" because I couldnt remember which one I had read some other members on this board had been taking per Buhner's suggestion!


-Courtney
Posted 4/20/2016 7:51 AM (GMT -5)
Buhner likes the pork version of Gelatin (red can).

I found that even small doses of it worked like a laxative for me.

I switched to the collagen h. stuff (green can) and have had no problems. The skin on the back of my hands has "plumped up" and the veins aren't as visible as they became since treating Lyme. I'd say the same about my face (people had been asking me if I'd lost weight when I've been the same weight for years).

Low and slow is always the way to go with anything we do in relation to these infections.
Posted 4/20/2016 8:42 AM (GMT -5)
Wow- Thanks to ALL of You who have shared your thoughts with me on this with all the added info. on collagen - I really appreciate it! Maybe I will cut back, say start with 1/2 Tbsp. and see if I get the same symptoms. Can anyone tell me if hydrolysed collagen is the exact same thing as collagen hydrolysate?
To answer some questions - I do take nano colloidal gold and silver everyday, I do take ozone saunas ( had to cut back because I was herxing a lot), I seldom use my frequency "zapper" and I know I should be using it more often. I "rifed" few times, too. I tried Quantum Biofeedback in December and was very disappointed with it because I was told that I have Lupus and not Lyme which is a bunch of crock (I have actual Igenex and other Lab results to show and prove I do have Lyme and coinfections). Also, we all know how Lyme is a great imitator of many other diseases. I think they have to program a Lot more Lyme co-infections into the Quantum devices so it can be more accurate. Hulda Clarke's synchrometer is a lot more accurate than Quantum biofeedback devices any day of the week. Just my 2cents.
Posted 4/20/2016 6:06 PM (GMT -5)
I have a question about the Great Lakes Hydrolysed Collagen (green can), sorry if this is TMI...you have been warned!!!

I started with a tablespoon in my warm tea. I then began to notice my urine and bowel movements had a very strange odor. I don't know how to describe it, like rubber breaking down or degrading? I stopped after a couple of weeks because I wasn't sure if because of the odor, I was doing a good thing by taking it. And I still noticed the odor consistently for another 2 weeks.

I am positive for MTHFR and have issues with sulfites.

Does anyone think this form of collagen could be contributing to sulfite issues?
Posted 4/20/2016 7:16 PM (GMT -5)

cd3764 said...
Buhner likes the pork version of Gelatin (red can).

I found that even small doses of it worked like a laxative for me.

I switched to the collagen h. stuff (green can) and have had no problems. The skin on the back of my hands has "plumped up" and the veins aren't as visible as they became since treating Lyme. I'd say the same about my face (people had been asking me if I'd lost weight when I've been the same weight for years).

Low and slow is always the way to go with anything we do in relation to these infections.

Great Cd! Many thx for that info. Any kind of "plumping" on my skin sounds good to me! Esp in my face would be nice as between aging and the ol' lyme has been taken a bit of a toll in my cheekbone/jaw area's :/
Mainly I am hoping it will help with lyme arthritic issues.

-Courtney
Posted 4/21/2016 4:33 PM (GMT -5)
I took gelatin and had improvements in joints, so I think collagen is also beneficial.
And I think that bacteria will find their way to get what they need, one way or another.
Posted 4/22/2016 9:21 AM (GMT -5)
So what is the difference between hydrolysed collagen and collagen hydrolysate?
Posted 4/22/2016 7:02 PM (GMT -5)

Somebody said...
So what is the difference between hydrolysed collagen and collagen hydrolysate?

They are both the same thing. "Hydrolysed" is when something has undergone hydrolysis (usually, the reaction of water with another compound to create other compounds. This is something your body does on it's own too, like in digestion.) "Hydrolysate" is a product of hydrolysis. So collagen hydrolysate/hydrolyzed collagen is gelatin that has been broken down from a large protein into smaller amino acids allowing it to be absorbed by the body more rapidly and maximizing nutrient delivery. So essentially, your body will do the same thing with the gelatin, it will just take a little longer.

I'm not sure about the odor issue. I take so many other supplements, my urine always has an odd odor depending on what I have taken when. (I really notice it with Alpha Lipoic Acid)

Glad to hear it has helped with plumping of skin on the hands. Mine are starting to look crepey :(.....I do hope it will eventually work on the fine lines on my face, lol! Crossing fingers for the joints too :-)
Posted 4/23/2016 7:46 AM (GMT -5)

lymie mom x 2 said...
I have a question about the Great Lakes Hydrolysed Collagen (green can), sorry if this is TMI...you have been warned!!!

I started with a tablespoon in my warm tea. I then began to notice my urine and bowel movements had a very strange odor. I don't know how to describe it, like rubber breaking down or degrading? I stopped after a couple of weeks because I wasn't sure if because of the odor, I was doing a good thing by taking it. And I still noticed the odor consistently for another 2 weeks.

I am positive for MTHFR and have issues with sulfites.

Does anyone think this form of collagen could be contributing to sulfite issues?

lymie mom x 2

If you don't get a response here, I suggest you create your own thread with this question. We have some members on here who have biochemistry knowledge that might be able to help.
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