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Posted 6/5/2016 7:37 AM (GMT -5)
http://www.ilads.org/media/boston/slides/harris/harris.html

This is an awesome slideshow that explains the markers for chronic lyme by Dr Harris.
Posted 6/5/2016 8:56 AM (GMT -5)
Good stuff thanks for that.

I've been thinking of having the 31 confirmation test done. I had 31+ 41+, and 34 IND, 39 IND.

I've gone back and forth as to whether it is worth it/whether it would actually change any of my treatment plans.
Posted 6/5/2016 9:37 AM (GMT -5)
While I do thank you for posting this, the information presented is not correct.

-while I'd LOVE to be able to say that those with chronic Lyme will test positive (on slide #3) on the bands stated (31,34, & 83 - 93) this is often NOT the case due to the ability of the bacteria to inhibit the immune function, making testing on almost any of the bands very difficult. I had chronic Lyme and should have tested positive on those bands, yet without treatment, I only tested positive for band 41.

- on slide #5, it states that the testing is very sensitive and specific, which is NOT true.

- slide #6 has been disproven as well - the only strains that come back positive on a regular basis are burgdorferi and mayonii.

I didn't bother to go any further.

But again, thank you for posting this, as it will help others to understand.
Posted 6/5/2016 10:03 AM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
While I do thank you for posting this, the information presented is not correct.

-while I'd LOVE to be able to say that those with chronic Lyme will test positive (on slide #3) on the bands stated (31,34, & 83 - 93) this is often NOT the case due to the ability of the bacteria to inhibit the immune function, making testing on almost any of the bands very difficult. I had chronic Lyme and should have tested positive on those bands, yet without treatment, I only tested positive for band 41.

- on slide #5, it states that the testing is very sensitive and specific, which is NOT true.

- slide #6 has been disproven as well - the only strains that come back positive on a regular basis are burgdorferi and mayonii.

I didn't bother to go any further.

But again, thank you for posting this, as it will help others to understand.

I don't see anywhere on Slide 3 where it says everyone with chronic Lyme will test positive. I think it's saying if you have those bands positive, you have Bb markers since they are specific.
EDIT: not sure why 39 wasn't included in this..
Posted 6/5/2016 10:32 AM (GMT -5)
Slide 3 simply states "Markers for chronic Lyme" - most all doctors (and many patients) will take that to mean if you don't have those things, you don't have chronic Lyme.
Posted 6/5/2016 12:04 PM (GMT -5)

Mustard Seed said...
Good stuff thanks for that.

I've been thinking of having the 31 confirmation test done. I had 31+ 41+, and 34 IND, 39 IND.

I've gone back and forth as to whether it is worth it/whether it would actually change any of my treatment plans.

If you have a LLMD or LLND treating you based on your symptoms with the above test results...then it won't change your treatment plans. A LLMD/LLND shouldn't need a positive test result.

If you have a Dr. saying he 'needs' a positive, rather than an IND test result (I believe your results would come up as IND) - then I guess it would be useful to do the Epitope test done.
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