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Posted 10/7/2016 5:12 AM (GMT -5)
Helllo, ealy this morning felt very sick, the night before i had b12" shot took magnesium bath, and took some herbs. I woke up middle of night a little sweaty with rapid heartbeat. Very scared. Maybe too much at once. Also taking azithromax /doxy. Feel really weak, weird achiness. I worked day before and felt fine.got worried felt like should go to hospital. Praying to feel better during the night. Never felt his way before. Ugh
Posted 10/7/2016 6:27 AM (GMT -5)
How are you feeling now?
Posted 10/7/2016 6:49 AM (GMT -5)
Hello feeling a little better kinda weak n hungry cant go to work. Going to rest i thing i pushed myself at work was on my feet for five hrs my friend warned me be careful, guess i have to change jobs for now. I should of listened to him. His friend was sick n out of work with same diagnosis for 2 mos. I work in a nursing home n walk pts. Now im the one who needs PT really difficult . Feel as though sleep for wk
Posted 10/7/2016 8:29 AM (GMT -5)
What kind of B12 are you using in the injections? I had a doc that didn't know any better prescribe cyanocobalamin ("regular" B12) for injections for me and about 20 minutes after the injection I had to take a nap for and hour or two. This was because it took a lot of energy for my body to convert it over to a more usable form of B12. I stopped the injections and switched to sublingual methylcobalamin (methyl B12) and no longer had that issue.

You also said you "took some herbs". Can you explain what herbs you took, and if you raised your dose of anything or started something new?
Posted 10/7/2016 10:03 AM (GMT -5)
Poohcheez,

So sorry you had a bad night. B12 can energize you and wire you. I had a B12 shot once and my heart was racing. I'm with Trav, I only do the sublingual methyl B12 now. Also, the shot, the herbs and working too much may have caused a herx. Glad you are resting today. Try to sleep as much as possible and stay away from anything stimulating.

Please keep us posted with how you are doing. Sending you good vibes and hugs.
Posted 10/7/2016 10:28 AM (GMT -5)
I think your gut reaction of - "Maybe too much at once" - is absolutely correct.

Detox today as much as you can and then take it slower.

I have overdone it many times and then had regrets. So sorry you have to go through this.
Posted 10/7/2016 1:01 PM (GMT -5)
Hello thankyou for everyone concerns. I tool a shot of hydroxocobalamin called the pharmacist they said heart palps shouldnt be side effect also herbs cocoction bar1 from my dr. With motherwort, japenese knotwood. I also took calm and took a magnesium bath. And antibiotics doxy and a, Zithromax i feel better now but no sleep kinda grumpy as i always had no problems sleeping at all. What a nightmare i used to live to sleep maybe drink camomile tea?
Posted 10/7/2016 1:06 PM (GMT -5)
I would encourage you to do more detoxing, I'm not sure that the chamomile tea will help much, although it's a nice relaxing tea to drink.

Were any of those things something you just started or just raised the dose of recently?
Posted 10/7/2016 1:30 PM (GMT -5)
i just started the azithromax 1 week ago and also the herbs also one week ago, also iam alot more hungry now even after eating and taking the antibiotics, should i be concerned? does the new antibiotics do this.
Posted 10/7/2016 1:47 PM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
............. I stopped the injections and switched to sublingual methylcobalamin (methyl B12) and no longer had that issue..........

I never took the injection route however, I've been taking the methyl B12 for the past few months now and I have regained most of my energy back. It is also helping with my paresthesia. I checked with an Acupuncturist and he said that he was never successful treating paresthesia but that methyl B12 seemed to help.
Posted 10/7/2016 1:53 PM (GMT -5)
Just to add, my blood work indicated that my B12 was low.
Posted 10/7/2016 2:14 PM (GMT -5)
I'm sorry, Poohcheez, I'm having issues with posting lately - my computer and the internet aren't playing nicely together!

We need to detox by several means daily, as detoxing has a cumulative effect - the more you do, the better your body is at keeping those toxins flowing.

For example, I have not had any of the gene mutation testing done, although I do seem to have the same kind of issues as those that do - so I figured it was best for me to assume that I did and work to get my body to detox much better. It took a lot of diet changes as things with my body changed,
I use a foot soak,
dry skin brushing,
Lymph massages as needed,
making sure my bowels moved at least once a day (sorry if it's TMI!)
pushing myself to drink at least 64 ounces of lemon water each and every day,
liver/gall bladder flushes (all natural) as needed,
Apple cider vinegar,
Quercetin,
Alpha Lipoic Acid,
oil pulling with coconut oil and a few drops of tea tree oil,
using Yogi brand detox tea,
taking activated charcoal (when necessary),
and keeping the amount of stress in my life at a bare minimum.
Posted 10/7/2016 2:14 PM (GMT -5)
But, there is such a thing as over detoxing, which can bring on a herx as well. There's a very careful balance we each must find with treatment and detoxing. Most of our toxins are in our tissues/organs, not in our bloodstream, so we have to do methods that will help 'release them' and move them into our bloodstream so they can be detoxed out. Over detoxing is when we move more toxins into the bloodstream than can easily be detoxed out by our body. So there's a careful balance that we must maintain between killing bacteria (which creates more toxins) and detoxing so that we can still be functional.This is why we suggest adding in more detoxing methods slowly (no more than 1 new routine every 3 - 5 days), and stop adding in more when you seem to be feeling okay or good. www.tiredoflyme.com/4-reasons-why-you-still-feel-bad-despite-detoxing.html
Posted 10/7/2016 2:18 PM (GMT -5)
You can find some really good detoxing suggestions in the "New to Lyme?" thread that sits at the top of the forum.

And this is another good list of possible detoxing routines: www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html
Posted 10/7/2016 2:20 PM (GMT -5)
HA!!! I fooled the computer and got it all posted anyway!!! turn
Posted 10/7/2016 2:58 PM (GMT -5)
thank you so much for everyone's input,! i did feel somewhat better after the b12 shot, just with all the other herbs gave me alot of reoccurring symptoms, especially the tingling in my lower leg which is horrible as well as scary it seem to subside with the b12 shot. what brand of methylated b12 do you use? my legs still fell fatigued as well as the tingling in foot and lower leg drives me crazy! guess im going through a rough patch hopefully light at the end of the tunnel eveutually.
Posted 10/7/2016 3:04 PM (GMT -5)
Please read the above posts about detoxing. I know that you are doing some detoxing, but your increase in symptoms is likely due to die off since you have only just started treatments one week ago.
Posted 10/7/2016 3:28 PM (GMT -5)
If im not mistaken if u have mthfr mutation b12 shots will make u feel worse
Posted 10/7/2016 3:34 PM (GMT -5)
You have to have the right form of B-12 to use if you have the MTHFR mutation - it's not all forms of B-12 that makes a person feel worse. Most of us with the MTHFR mutations can use methyl B12, but for the few that can't use that either, there's still 2 other types of B-12 to try - Hydroxocobalamin, and Adenosylcobalamin.

www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/four-types-vitamin-b12/
Posted 10/7/2016 5:31 PM (GMT -5)
How much zith are you on .it builds up ..i was told only do 3 x a week it has 96 hr halflife and can cause palps ..long qt and tinnitus
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