Puffy undereyes? Lyme parents

I think it's still 'fresh' in your mind.

I think over time, it will settle down.


My mind is on lyme all the time...it's always there in the back of my mind.

It will take a long time - once I'm symptom free to 'relax'.

In this case, just keep your eye on her...see what happens...

I have puffiness under the eyes. Looks like I need more sleep. Didn't have this issue before lyme.

In the beginning the anxiety and over thinking is really bad. Later it gets better. It gets better because you reach a level of acceptance and peace that it will take a long while to be symptom free. So you just stay focus on things you can control which is taking all the necessary steps to heal and you stop thinking about how you have to "quickly" stop lyme and all the weird and unpleasant symptom it causes.

You strive to get better but you have a more "what will be will be" attitude and this helps with actually getting back to living again.

Huddie said...
I get puffy eyes. Since taking Stephania and Wobyznzyme my puffiness has gone away.

Huddie,

Has this really worked for you? How well?

How often do you take them and at what dose?

Huddie said...
Dacarte,

Yes it really does. I have tried everything: no salt, no sleeping on my face, gels, cold spoons. My eyes are always puffy. Well I started the Stephania (now I take about 20 drops 2 x a day) and I take Wobynzyme PS 3 tablets 2x a day. I was doing this for lyme inflammation/arthritic feelings. Well one day I noticed the puffiness was gone. Last week I had symptoms back again and the puffiness was there. I had also forgotten my afternoon doses for several days.

Yes, I've tried everything as well. Diet, more sleep, I even tried the cold spoons too lol.

But you're saying this really worked for you. Stephania is affordable. But the Wobynzyme is rather pricey. Do you contribute it to both Stephania and Wob? The combination?

dacarte3 said...

In the beginning the anxiety and over thinking is really bad. Later it gets better. It gets better because you reach a level of acceptance and peace that it will take a long while to be symptom free. So you just stay focus on things you can control which is taking all the necessary steps to heal and you stop thinking about how you have to "quickly" stop lyme and all the weird and unpleasant symptom it causes.

The problem is that it relates to my children. There is no pediatric LLMD around here and I haven't taken the trouble to travel to one because the kids seem okay. Although I just had a heart attack when changing my 3 year old into his pj bc he had like a raised red linear pink mark on his skin, of course, my first thought is Bartonella. He has nothing else going on but he's three - how is he going to tell me if his feet burn? My mother insisted that he was just playing in an short oak tree and in the leaves, etc. and that it's probably from that. I seriously want to cry or throw up.

lymebug said...
So I'm not just worried about making this symptom go away, but I am worried that means the Lyme is still there.

Looking at your signature I see that you and the fam was dx in August. So I assuming you have been treating since then.

If that is the case it takes more than 2-3 months to put lyme in to remission and be symptom free. So the probability is the lyme is "still there". Matter of fact the odds of eradicating 100% of every single microscopic bacterial cell is almost not possible.

Your child can be symptom free through stretches of life, maybe even really long stretches, but it could build back up at some point and the body will have an immune response. Once you have lyme, maintenance every now and again throughout life is not uncommon.

But that's the same with most infections, not just lyme. If you get the flu virus, it's still in your body, forever. But it's in remission but can pop back up again one day. Same thing with, let's say the herpes viruses. It can be dormant for many many years but then flare up again one day.

Lyme is no different.

lymebug said...

dacarte3 said...

lymebug said...
So I'm not just worried about making this symptom go away, but I am worried that means the Lyme is still there.

Looking at your signature I see that you and the fam was dx in August. So I assuming you have been treating since then.

If that is the case it takes more than 2-3 months to put lyme in to remission and be symptom free. So the probability is the lyme is "still there". Matter of fact the odds of eradicating 100% of every single microscopic bacterial cell is almost not possible.

Your child can be symptom free through stretches of life, maybe even really long stretches, but it could build back up at some point and the body will have an immune response. Once you have lyme, maintenance every now and again throughout life is not uncommon.

But that's the same with most infections, not just lyme. If you get the flu virus, it's still in your body, forever. But it's in remission but can pop back up again one day. Same thing with, let's say the herpes viruses. It can be dormant for many many years but then flare up again one day.

Lyme is no different.

So you are saying the CDC recommendations fail EVERYONE? I am not denying that they seem overly optimistic about short-course antibiotics, but I do think there is a group of people that can be done with Lyme with that little bit of treatment. My concern is that we are not those lucky people.

I would like to see the evidence, where people have been positive for lyme and was completely symptom free after 2-3 weeks of abx. I don't think they exist.

What I think happens is after a month or two these people feel much much better (me being an example) but go about life for the next several, several month still healing. But from the main stream medical perspective, it "worked" because you are no longer sick as a dog.

Not feeling like death and being completely symptom free are not the same thing.

I know quite a few family members have had absolutely no symptoms with Lyme after taking a month of antibiotics . Many of them had the bull's-eye and or flu symptoms and took the month of antibiotics and have been perfectly fine for years ever since. This includes my husband two times and my brother and his entire family in western Massachusetts. Hopefully this will give you some comfort.