Thoughts on IV Ozone with/without UVB, UVLrX add on treatment?

So my LLMD's office offers IV Ozone with (or without UVB) and will soon be offering UVLrX. There's another place close to him that offers IV Ozone only (no UVB) and is much cheaper ($100 versus $250). When UVLrX is available it'll be the same price as Ozone with UVB.

I'm considering this as an add on option to my current abx/herbal regimen as I believe supporting the immune system is the key to getting these infections permanently under control.

So what does everyone think I should do, wait for UVLrX and if not just go for Ozone without UVB? I'm not sure what UVB brings to the table (I know what they say but not sure how effective it is).

Would love everyone's thoughts thanks!

I've done both and personally I don't know if I have a preference. The UVB just offers an added killing agent. What I'm finding is that a number of doctors are starting to offer with UVBI w/ozone only.

Interesting conversation that I had with my doctor today. He was trying to explain this alternative ozone treatment that Dr. R is doing in California. So it's called a pass through or pass back....something like that. So the way he explained it is that, it's this canister type thing that sits on the top (of what I don't know, perhaps it hangs)....anywho....the oxygen and blood are somehow passed 1-10 times. Dr. R evidently is one of the few docs doing this. Anyway, they are getting great results with ebola, etc.

A few docs at the conference stated to him that they are doing this particular process with their Lyme patients and they are showing almost abnormal improvements after only 1 passback.

Anyway he added me to the list of patients that may be interested. He's thinking it should be in sometime in January. He said it should be great for my EBV because that improved greatly with ozone when I was in FL.

You are more than likely right about the improved penetration. But I have still found that all ozone is not the same. Some use too much heparin, different ozone machines and it really does make a difference. Having done it at two different places thus far, I can definitely feel a difference.

Bluelyme my thoughts exactly! Which is why I asked my doc how much will he be charging? He doesn't know as of yet. I think he said one machine was like $20,000 grand, plus whatever else is needed....so he does acknowledge that he won't be making the cost back immediately. Not sure how many he's purchasing.

I did UVB w/ ozone and went into what I consider 100% symptom free ... for around 1 year. Little by little problems started creeping back, and then I tried UVLrx w/out ozone. It was not nearly as effective.

After reading many things, I believe I may still be iin Lyme remission but suffering from co-infections or after effects of Lyme die-off, like ammonia toxicity.

I honestly don't know and am confused right now. But, symptom-wise, it is totally different than when I was suffering from the initial Lyme disease state...

I have been to several applied kinesiologists, and all muscle test negative for Lyme... and while that is not my be all end all, blood work is also negative, and I definitely feel ... different.

But, like I said, I don't know anything beyond what I experience each day... and that gets confusing, LoL

Everyone who treats with Ozone has to be certified by Dr Rowan. You can find lots of his videos on Youtube.
Rowan and Schallenberger (sp?) are the two big ozone guys. They were sort of a team. Dr Rowan is only about an hour and a half north of me so the ND's I've seen have chatted about him.

Here is the info on the multi pass system that you were referring to. thepowerofozone.com/ozone-high-dose-10-pass/

My LLND has the Zotzmann. Before he was treating with ozone he was referring to an ND that was using the other machine so I've had treatments with both. I've also had ozone treatments where they used gravity (no machine, this is most common). You want to ask if they have a machine. Imo ozone with the machine is FAR superior to ozone without the machine. It also takes much more time without the machine to do a pass. Ask what the fee will be for multiple passes. The first ND I went to charged the same amount for each pass. That was a rip off imo. Once the needle is in and the tubing and bottle are set up for the first pass the additional ones are very simple. My LLND charges $175 for the first pass and $50 every additional pass, bless him. It's still a lot of money but not the $195 per pass the other ****was charging.

Start with a single pass. Make sure you don't herx too much. I'd go up by a pass at a time. My blood is very thick due to Bart and it's clotting too fast so I've not had ozone in a month or so. I had a triple pass last week and the next day I felt really horrible, blinding head pain. I know a woman who doesn't have a very heavy toxin load but did a five pass the first time she did ozone. I could see how lousy she felt the next day. She had a terrible headache.

Just an FYI-The Zotzmann costs about $11k. If I was a LLMD I would make the investment in a flash as it will pay for itself relatively quickly. A person can do 5 passes on a machine in under an hour easily while it can take an hour to do a single pass manually.

Don't know about the ozone, but the UBI I can attest to. As for Dr.R I have watched all of his video's and read his newsletter.

One thought on why UBI works is that some "think" the uv increases the amount of Ozone in the body. Don't know about that.

My buddy, has been able to get off his nebulizer and other medications for COPD by using the UBI equipment I made for him. He does 2-3 treatments a day, each treatment gives him 4-6 hours of relief. I know that the UBI will increase the oxygen level of the blood, so don't think Ozone will help that much.

Claude

JRPSF thanks for the info. Hmmmm....probably would be too much for me to handle. When I do ozone I do low concentrations, like 50-70, and this is big guns based on what I just read. Even at one pass it's much more ozone than I've ever had.

Guess I won't be doing that at my doctor's office.