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Posted 12/20/2016 3:29 PM (GMT -5)
Hi guys -

I am almost 2 months into treatment for Babesia (microti and duncani), chlamydia pneunominae, and tuleremia (also clinically diagnosed for lyme). My first month, I took doxy/zitho/mepron. Felt great for the first 10 days and just felt dogged afterwards. Old symptoms getting stronger and even some new symptoms. The second month, the my llmd switched me to mino/biaxin/malarone. Same pattern. Improved tremendously for the first week and now just herxing constantly. I am detoxing aggressively.

If I keep herxing, what does this mean? More die off? Am I hurting my recovery if I continue to herx for an extended period of time? I asked my doctor this and he told me that is not the case.

Has anyone else noticed this same pattern of improvement when taking a new abx and then herxing?

Thanks guys.
Posted 12/20/2016 3:52 PM (GMT -5)
Jack - Everyone's patterns are different.

But, both times, you could be experiencing a herx...as the longer you treat, the more the toxins can build up.

I've read often that people will feel better at first...and then a little later on, feel worse.

Herxing means you aren't getting rid of the toxins as fast as they are building up.

Very severe herxing can be damaging....is there any other methods you can add in to your regime?

You may have to stick it out with the protocol...but if possible try and look at what you could add in for detoxing.

If the herxing becomes too much, you should talk to your LLMD and maybe back off of the abx for a day or two.
Posted 12/20/2016 3:55 PM (GMT -5)
When you say severe herxing can be damaging, do you mean that I am making my disease worse? Or just damaging to my overall stamina and psyche?

Thank you Girlie.
Posted 12/20/2016 4:06 PM (GMT -5)
Yes severe herxing can be damaging. It places enormous strain on an already exhausted body and further compromises your healing, recovery, and health. to the point wh.
Posted 12/20/2016 4:09 PM (GMT -5)
herxing means inflammation - and that is not good for the body...it hampers healing.
Posted 12/20/2016 7:34 PM (GMT -5)
When you have a big herx, take activated charcoal. It helps quickly.
However, as others suggested, if your big herxes are too frequent, you need to tell that to your LLMD.
Posted 12/20/2016 9:51 PM (GMT -5)
I agree, talk to your LLMD about pacing. A herx reaction is a flush of toxins into the system, and this can take its toll on the body. I always find it worthwhile to revisit and revisit and revisit what a herx is. If you don't mind my asking, what are you doing for detox? Hang in there! Thanks for sharing and asking.
HErX links
www.tiredoflyme.com/the-herxheimer-reaction.html

/chronicillnessrecovery.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161

jemsekspecialty.com/the-herxheimer-reaction/

www.treatlyme.net/treat-lyme-book/herxheimer-die-off-reaction-inflammation-run-amok/
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