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Interesting youtube on lyme in the mouth
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Rikky1
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Posted 2/12/2017 2:41 PM (GMT -5)
great microscopy and explanations on what's going on in the mouth. read the comments also.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GboQ3Y7h0eQ
Mustard Seed
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Posted 2/12/2017 3:00 PM (GMT -5)
Cool video.
Might not be Lyme all the time though.
Other spirochete species are common in dental disease.
Rikky1
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Posted 2/12/2017 3:02 PM (GMT -5)
good point mustard thanks for highlighting that. what's interesting about
spiro's is their mechanism of action. that corkscrew shape is a highly evolved method to pretty much drill into anything in the human body.
Mustard Seed
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Posted 2/12/2017 3:06 PM (GMT -5)
Yup. If you do end up getting a microscope, you'll sometimes see them drilling out of red blood cells.
I find that if I look at my blood right after I draw it, there are no spirochetes to be seen.
If I wait 24-48 hours, I then see spirochetes wiggling through the plasma. They're hiding somewhere and come out to play when the red blood cells start to die. Nasty buggers.
magoo2
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Posted 2/12/2017 5:50 PM (GMT -5)
Would spirochetes in the mouth create a positive test for lyme?
Girlie
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Posted 2/12/2017 6:06 PM (GMT -5)
magoo2 said...
Would spirochetes in the mouth create a positive test for lyme?
Are you asking about
lyme spirochetes? or all spirochetes?
Mustard Seed
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Posted 2/12/2017 6:31 PM (GMT -5)
Some bands would be positive with non lyme spirochetes, like 41.
Others wouldn't be positive without Lyme, like 34 and 39.
magoo2
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Posted 2/12/2017 9:57 PM (GMT -5)
Could explain why some get better when dental it cured
bluelyme
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Posted 2/13/2017 12:39 AM (GMT -5)
Phase contrast is the bees knees ....i spoke with a dentist in cali who says he uses chlorine dioxide for ketes in the mouth with great success..also the dentist norquist shows all ketes dying with honey and herbs (doesnt say what herbs
so if treponema denticola can be transfered orally than borrelia can be too...kiss your id doc if you can ...
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