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Posted 3/30/2017 10:39 PM (GMT -5)
My knees have been painful for months - I can handle that, but now my hands are achy. I'm not on ABX, just herbal only. After a bad herx, I stopped herbs for a few days. It's hard to hold a pen or chopstix or even type. Does anyone have any great tips on how to handle the arthritis feeling in the hands and knees? This is really depressing. I'm a writer and it's hard to type - it's literally all I have keeping me going right now.
Posted 3/30/2017 10:48 PM (GMT -5)
Try some Arnica gel or Doterra Deep Blue Rub.

These seem to help and smell good too.
Posted 3/31/2017 12:11 AM (GMT -5)

Village Crazy Lady said...
Try some Arnica gel or Doterra Deep Blue Rub.

These seem to help and smell good too.

Been using arnica on my knees - but I'd like to know what can be done internally maybe? If anything?
Posted 3/31/2017 12:14 AM (GMT -5)
Curcumin and Omega 3 are both really great antiinflammatories. They should help with all your pain. Anything that reduces inflammation is key with pain.
Posted 3/31/2017 12:18 AM (GMT -5)
Hydrolyzed Collagen may help as well.
Posted 3/31/2017 1:11 AM (GMT -5)
bee venom cream was so helpful i went to straight bee venom ...i had trouble holding a gallon jug6 months ago yesterday i lifted a 100# box
www.dancingbeeacres.com/Bee-Venom_c_9.html
the venex is equalivalent to 1/3 a sting for a large smidge
Posted 3/31/2017 8:41 AM (GMT -5)
I too have a lot of joint pain, and turmeric, ginger, bromelain all helped, but I stopped the bromelain and tried using Glucosamine, MSM and hyaluronic acid (in a combination product) and that has been of more help to me than the previous combinations.
Posted 3/31/2017 9:09 AM (GMT -5)
my pain is almost completely gone since taking turmeric - i started with a 1000mg pill a day, and when Lyme got really nasty, had to go to 2x. Took the pain away in a week. I use a kind suspended in sunflower lecithin to increase absorbency (Curcum-Evail, or its cheaper but slightly messier twin, Curcuma-Bioavail). Others have said they have success taking a supplement with black pepper/piperine. Curcumin or Turmeric needs help with absorption or your body won't use it.

I also am taking 2000 mg of omega 3 fish oil, almost completely made up of DHA and EPA, little or no "other" or unspecified. I started that before Lyme, and never stopped, so I don't know how I feel on or off Omega 3 as far as pain goes.
Posted 3/31/2017 9:13 AM (GMT -5)
I have this too, more in my hands and it changes in intensity all the time. I've been told Turmeric or Curcumin. It was recommended to look for Turmeric with Meriva.
Posted 3/31/2017 9:24 AM (GMT -5)
Actually, the turmeric is absorbed by the body without pepperine, it's just not as effectively absorbed. My hubby can't have the pepperine due to warfarin use, so we don't have it at all. I still feel a lot of relief from it (3 days is as long as I can go without it without suffering horribly), although I do have to take higher amounts of it.
Posted 3/31/2017 10:23 AM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
I too have a lot of joint pain, and turmeric, ginger, bromelain all helped, but I stopped the bromelain and tried using Glucosamine, MSM and hyaluronic acid (in a combination product) and that has been of more help to me than the previous combinations.


Hey Trav,

What's the combination product?

Thanks,😊
Posted 3/31/2017 10:36 AM (GMT -5)
Yes there is a post with the title tumeric and black pepper or something to that extent which list some that are suggested without the pepper. The post was on biotoxins. You can do a search to bring this up.
Posted 3/31/2017 10:38 AM (GMT -5)
Good morning y'all!

Yes please Traveler, what is the combo product?
Posted 3/31/2017 12:49 PM (GMT -5)
Well, there are several brands out there, but the one that I can afford to stay on is made by Schiff:
/goo.gl/8uGHfn I do have to take one more than is recommended (for a total of 4 a day), but we often have to take higher doses of things because the bacteria eat it up.
Posted 3/31/2017 1:36 PM (GMT -5)
I don't have anything to suggest for relief...but just wanted to post that with treatment, mine subsided...completely.

The joint pain in my fingers came on with treatment and it would wake me up at night...My fingers would be clenched and when I opened them....it hurt so bad...

Hope you find something that works for you in the mean time.
Posted 3/31/2017 3:35 PM (GMT -5)
Does this combo need to be spaced away from abx or binders?
Posted 3/31/2017 3:48 PM (GMT -5)
EVERYTHING needs to be spaced 2 hours before and after binders, including food, liquids (other than water), supplements, herbs, pharma meds.....

I'm not sure on the abx, it would depend on what abx you are taking and if they interact with any of the ingredients.
A couple of drug interaction checkers for you, if you don't already have a favorite to use!
/www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html

www.rxlist.com/drug-interaction-checker.htm
Posted 3/31/2017 3:58 PM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
EVERYTHING needs to be spaced 2 hours before and after binders, including food, liquids (other than water), supplements, herbs, pharma meds.....

I'm not sure on the abx, it would depend on what abx you are taking and if they interact with any of the ingredients.
A couple of drug interaction checkers for you, if you don't already have a favorite to use!
/www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html

www.rxlist.com/drug-interaction-checker.htm

Oh awesome, thank you Trav!
Posted 3/31/2017 4:15 PM (GMT -5)
Glad I could be of help! smile
Posted 3/31/2017 7:15 PM (GMT -5)
Kristen do you take Tumeric? It's probably something that you would want to add in anyway because it's a powerhouse. You may find that that is enough (if you aren't taking it now). I used to take a liposomal formula, but just put in an order for pills at the request of my doctor. Also you can add fresh Tumeric to your smoothies and food.
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