Nystatin

A few weeks back, I noticed what looked like cottage cheese spots on the back of my tongue with a white coat on the front of my tongue in the am. I went to see my pcp's nurse practitioner about it and she gave me an rx for nystatin liquid suspension. Since then, I've gone to the dentist and an occupational med. Dr for my annual work physical exam. I asked both about my tongue and they both said no thrush.

I took doxycycline 200mg bid during February, then stopped on ND orders. So my question is, do you yhink I should refill the nystatin and continue another bottle of it? Any harm taking it if not necessary?

My gut happiness on a scale of 10 being the worst, is about a 4.

I'm taking 4 different probiotics: b. Infantis, b. laterosporus, probiotic pearls complete, and now 10/20 powder. In addition, I swig goat kefir several times a day and eat Sauer kraut at lunch every day.
Whaddya think?

PeteZa said...
Remind me of what treatment you are on. Are you still on antibiotics?

No abx for now. Just baby steps with buhner protocol. I'm between Lyme docs now. Hopefully I can get in to see my new llmd within a couple weeks. I'm certainly willing to try more abx. Time will tell.

Girlie said...
Is the back of your tongue still looking like that? ...or did the Nystatin liquid work?
I don't think there is any harm in doing another round of it.

Still pretty much the same. The front and center looks nice and pinkish though.

Girlie said...
It probably wouldn't hurt to do another round.

Are you just quickly swallowing the Nystatin...or swishing it around in your mouth for awhile?

You could also add in some more natural Candida remedies.

I swish and gargle it. I hold it in my mouth for several minutes b4 swallowing it.
I do oil pulling with coconut oil and acv, but not consistently. I take B. Laterosporus which supposedly kills candida. I tried s. Boulardii but someone here scared me off of that.
I'm also doing some resistant starch as a prebiotic. All when I'm not even convinced I have a candida overgrowth.

Post Edited (BJD55) : 4/3/2017 6:07:37 PM (GMT-6)

Girlie said...
I'm not good with advice about it...because I don't know if I've ever had Candida ...even with all these antibiotics.

If I knew I had Candida, I'd be more thorough and consistent about treating it. That said, I think I'm doing an OK-ish job of it. Diet is decent. I think i'm gonna just pick up the rx and use it just to be on the safe side. Unless somebody shouts a dire warning.

Hi BJD55 -

Good responses already. I just wanted to echo that more Nystatin certainly won't hurt (Nystatin, although requiring an Rx, is derived from the earth and generally not harmful). I don't know much about the "liquid suspension" form but generally, the liquid forms don't have much of the Nystatin in them and some even have sugar in them. You might even want to try taking the prescribed dose more frequently.

Yeast/fungal overgrowth in mouth/throat is pretty common since everything we take, particularly antibiotics, we take orally. Some people can disrupt the natural flora in their mouths pretty easily.

Adding in organic antifungals is also good advice (you're doing great w/ the oil pulling). Try also chewing up and swelling a clove of garlic every now and then - I love it but some people can't tolerate it. You can get grapefruit seed extract capsules fairly inexpensively - I'd open up the capsules on your tongue and gargle w/ a little water. Just know that long-term any yeast/fungal issues can cause resistance to organics so keep that in mind and rotate if you need to.

If you DO have a yeast/fungal situation going on, the probiotics and the fermented foods are not going to address it (they are great for prevention and health but do not get rid of an overgrowth so please don't rely on them). In fact, I've had to stop fermented foods altogether for awhile since they would consistently aggravate yeast/fungal overgrowth.

If none of this works, try getting a prescription for PURE Nystatin powder - it's expensive but superior to anything and kills on contact Look at my comments about it in this thread: www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=1606610&g=3644275#m3644275

If, after switching things up for a couple of weeks with some of these suggestions, if you still don't see any change, I would find a naturopath to see (I would not rely on a dentist to dx any fungal issues). Don't let this go too long… you do not want it spreading to your gut.

-p