Unraveling the detox mystery

How long have you been detoxing? It has a cumulative effect.

How about something for the CNS?

Two options I can think of - Nutramedix Pinella - Nerve/brain Cleanse (can be combined with the Burbur )
...or Jernigan's Neuro Antitoxin II - CNS/PNS

Here's a link to a website with more ideas:


www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods


Have you tried lymph massages?

Here's a YouTube video demonstrating how to do your own massage.

/youtu.be/QA-wi0d7-Ro

Yes, detox should be daily.

I was wondering if you had just recently started detoxing and maybe that's why you weren't seeing results yet.

On bad days, I will up my detox..so I will do my Pinella and Burbur two or three times in a row...and/or I will do two Epsom salt baths in one day.

How much charcoal are you taking? Maybe add in another capsule.

What about drinking lemon water?

Are you able to do lite exercise? Stretching, going for walks?

Are you taking magnesium? That can help with sore muscles...or a magnesium spray other members say works well.

Sorry for your experience.
each person is different, so there are not fixed detox protocols, antimicrobial protocols, diet plans, treatment plans for chronic illnesses.

each person is different.

That is why I keep telling people that energetic tests can help.
they aren't final answer to anything, but they helped me immensely on the direction I was going.

dr. K from Seatlle is so much 'advanced' in diagnosing, finding problems, because he uses ART energetic tests for about 3 decades (or more?).

He was the one who found out first, 20 years ago, that lyme and heavy metals are linked.
He was the one who first talked about biofilms protecting lyme.
The one who is telling us that EM radiation is one big cause of disease.
That cavitations are an issue for lyme, as well as parasites, or the HPU issue.

I went to some of his practitioners, and they measured everything I needed for detoxing and binding those toxins.

It felt like magic, too crazy to be true, but the fact was that, after taking those exact binders, in the right amount, many times a day, I almost felt I was not ill anymore.

then I learned how to do those energy tests too, and continued to improve, slowly but surely.

Some days I needed chlorella + bear garlic + MSM in GREAT amounts (like 6 times a day), some others only about 3 times a day.

There are some EAV machines doing that too, finding supplements, herbs, abx... but they are not too cheap.

I do a simple O-ring Omura test with my fingers, and so does my daughter (but she uses only one hand). She learned energy testing at the age of 3, and practiced that body-swaying test (easy for little children to learn).

She had been plagued by multiple severe food allergies, so that was how she could survive socially, choosing her food this way when she was out of the house (kindergarden, by friends).

Don't get discouraged. It's, in my view, impossible to live a lifetime in the dark, playing trial and error with complex protocols, such as lyme disease treatments.

I think stronger people, who have better detox systems may laugh about us, who 'believe in such energy tests to survive', because we can't detox well.

But I sincerely had no choice, if I wanted to heal in THIS life time. I didn't have a whole life time to be trying in the dark. I do think energy testing helped me about 80% in my lyme recovery.

It still does, even though I don't have lyme any more (for the last 8 years). I still use it to buy non-organic fruits, to chose homeopathic medicine, detox substances, supplements, frequencies in devices.....

I do hope this does not discourage you. Energy testing can be so easy to learn, for some people, while others are blocked to learn it... It anyway was the best gift lyme gave to me, I think. It took me a few weeks to learn that.

Let's see if posting what I do will help you "see" what someone with detoxing issues has to do. As you know, not everything that I do will help you, or everything that you do will help me, but it's a place to start. We also have quite a few threads on here talking about detoxing, and trying to help others that have issues with it, so you may also wish to do a forum search.

I have not had any of the gene mutation testing done, although I do seem to have the same kind of issues as those that do - so I figured it was best for me to assume that I did and work to get my body to detox much better.

It took a lot of diet changes as things with my body changed,
I use a foot soak,
dry skin brushing,
making sure my bowels moved at least once a day (sorry if it's TMI!)
pushing myself to drink at least 64 ounces of lemon water each and every day,
liver/gall bladder flushes (all natural), as needed,
oil pulling with tea tree oil,
taking activated charcoal, as needed,
Alpha lipoic acid,
Quercetin,
​ turmeric,
Methyl B-12 and methyl folate,
Dandelion tincture,
red root tincture,
Yogi brand detox tea (original flavor)
Have recently added cytokine remodulators - Chinese Skullcap and Red clover extracts
and keeping the amount of stress in my life at a bare minimum.

​ I have used apple cider vinegar to help with detoxing as well - it's really good, but started making my stomach issues worse, so I stopped using it daily and only use it occasionally when I know I need a boost in my detoxing for just a day or two.​

You can find some really good detoxing suggestions in the "New to Lyme?" thread that sits at the top of the forum. And this is another really good resource for detoxing ideas for Lyme patients:
www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

But, there is such a thing as over detoxing. This happens when we move more toxins than our body is capable of processing out effectively. Many toxins are stored in our tissues, and by detoxing, we move them to the bloodstream where we can process them out of our bodies through the lymph system, then on to the liver and kidneys as so on. We have to be sure to add in more detoxing routines slowly and carefully, or we will end up herxing just like we had never been detoxing. This article helps to explain that some: www.tiredoflyme.com/4-reasons-why-you-still-feel-bad-despite-detoxing.html