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Posted 7/2/2017 4:31 AM (GMT -5)
Hi all,

I looking for someone who has experience in this therapy.
Apparently is new, or let's say it is old but recently had new perspectives:

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ika1GkefjSU

From what I have understood is because of the new ultraviolet light.
Device makers claim to have good results. For instance:

www.webermedical.com/en/weber-medical-for-professionals/med-lasertherapy/the-new-yellow-laser/

But it is difficult to understand, would it work for any person?
What result I could get? Just an improvement or total recovery?

Does anyone have an experience with that?
What is your opinion?
I have Lyme disease since 2003 and I lost my trust in antibiotics and doctors.
This might be a different approach and I think it might work.
Posted 7/2/2017 9:23 AM (GMT -5)
Greetings:

Yes I am familiar with it, however, I use a different method.

My suggestion is that you go over my previous posts. You will find a home made device which will allow you to do ultraviolet blood irradiation at home. Cost about $50 to build.

God Bless claude
Posted 7/2/2017 9:29 AM (GMT -5)
Hi Tuareg!
Welcome to our community! I'm glad you found us.

I​f ​you haven't ​yet​,​​ it would be helpful for you to start with reading through the thread at the top of the forum titled,"New to Lyme?...Start here!!", as​​ ​​it is packed ​​full of ​​important information​​, symptom lists, helpful links and pdf's, how to detox when one has these infections, information on probiotics and much more.​​ ​​​​And, here's another good place to find helpful detoxing rout​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ines​​:​​​​​​ ​​​http://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html​​

There are many different alternative treatments that are talked about here, I would encourage you to look into some of the different options.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:13 AM (GMT -5)
I have only read about it on Facebook. A couple of people have started using it and I have not seen them post results yet.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:18 AM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
Hi Tuareg!
Welcome to our community! I'm glad you found us.

I​f ​you haven't ​yet​,​​ it would be helpful for you to start with reading through the thread at the top of the forum titled,"New to Lyme?...Start here!!", as​​ ​​it is packed ​​full of ​​important information​​, symptom lists, helpful links and pdf's, how to detox when one has these infections, information on probiotics and much more.​​ ​​​​And, here's another good place to find helpful detoxing rout​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ines​​:​​​​​​ ​​​http://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html​​

There are many different alternative treatments that are talked about here, I would encourage you to look into some of the different options.


Thanks.
Please save your time.
First time I was positive to Lyme was 2003, but I have Lyme since more than 30 years.
I know Lyme very well.
Over the past years I have been trying almost everything.
What I would like to read, is real experience of people taking a therapy and saying: this worked for me, I am out of this issue.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:25 AM (GMT -5)

claude783 said...
Greetings:

Yes I am familiar with it, however, I use a different method.

My suggestion is that you go over my previous posts. You will find a home made device which will allow you to do ultraviolet blood irradiation at home. Cost about $50 to build.

God Bless claude

Thanks claude783 for your reply.

I will go through your posts.
However, this post is not regarding that particular device.
It can be done with 10.000$ device or 50$ device.
Here I want to talk about the CONCEPT!!!
Is this concept good for recovering? Is it worth, not to spend money, but to spend time?
Has anyone tried it? Did she/he get improvements?
So, if you are familiar with this concept and want to share you experience,
could you please share here your experience and tell us what was the impact on your health and if your recovered from the disease?
Thanks.

Cheers.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:26 AM (GMT -5)
Have you read my story? I was infected for 37 years before ever having an accurate diagnosis - 40 years before I finally had successful treatment for myself.

I have been studying Lyme deeply for the last 10 years, and have had to come up with my own treatments due to having no doctors near me that know how to treat these infections - and I did heal.

Assuming that I have no understanding of what you may be facing is a false assumption.

I am a REAL person that has suffered with these infections for the last 46 out of my 54 years and I have had great success with herbs - as have many others. There are many modalities that have helped people here heal, including but not limited to, abx, herbs, Rife, BVT.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:33 AM (GMT -5)
tuareg, I just checked on FB and they have not responded.

Have you put a search out on the lyme communities on Facebook? There are so many lyme groups. I just put ___________ (my area) Lyme Group and got about 4 places.

Another option is to type in the search bar (below Forums & Chat) on the top of this thread, Lyme laser iv. I just did that and got many threads.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:34 AM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
Have you read my story? I was infected for 37 years before ever having an accurate diagnosis - 40 years before I finally had successful treatment for myself.

I have been studying Lyme deeply for the last 10 years, and have had to come up with my own treatments due to having no doctors near me that know how to treat these infections - and I did heal.

Assuming that I have no understanding of what you may be facing is a false assumption.

I am a REAL person that has suffered with these infections for the last 46 out of my 54 years and I have had great success with herbs - as have many others. There are many modalities that have helped people here heal, including but not limited to, abx, herbs, Rife, BVT.

I do not doubt.
Your story is very interesting.
However, you know we all react differently to the therapies.
So, what is good for you, it might not be good for me.
A quick question: have you ever taken intravenous blood irradiation with laser.
What is your experience? Could you please share it?
Posted 7/2/2017 10:42 AM (GMT -5)

PeteZa said...
tuareg, I just checked on FB and they have not responded.

Have you put a search out on the lyme communities on Facebook? There are so many lyme groups. I just put ___________ (my area) Lyme Group and got about 4 places.

Another option is to type in the search bar (below Forums & Chat) on the top of this thread, Lyme laser iv. I just did that and got many threads.

Hi, I haven't tired yet to put in Facebook.
I will try.
However, what I am looking for is real experience of people who has already tried this therapy.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:42 AM (GMT -5)
I was in no way challenging you and this method, only suggesting that you look into those therapies that have been proven to work for many.

No, I have never had intravenous blood irradiation with laser - there are no doctors in my area that even would consider having this available.

But this forum is NOT for challenging each other. We are here in support of each other. I did not say that it would not work, and as you are a new member, I of course, have no idea what your story entails - what you may have tried and what the results were. But I do know what I have seen, and so I just encouraged you to look into other possible therapies.

So, what have you tried? What were the results? You can read my story on here, but we don't have any way of knowing what your story is until you choose to tell us.

I'm very sorry that you seem to believe that I'm challenging you - as I was not. I was only hoping to be of some help in suggesting that you look into therapies that are known to be of help. Please do not shoot the messenger, as there will likely be others that may suggest other treatments as well simply because we don't know what you have tried or what the results were.
Posted 7/2/2017 10:57 AM (GMT -5)
here are some of the thread I obtained through the search bar.

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3347287

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3505474

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3853369

If you see a member that has tried this and you would like to contact them, just click on the blue envelope under their screen name and you can email them.

Hope this is helpful.
Posted 7/2/2017 2:57 PM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
I was in no way challenging you and this method, only suggesting that you look into those therapies that have been proven to work for many.

No, I have never had intravenous blood irradiation with laser - there are no doctors in my area that even would consider having this available.

But this forum is NOT for challenging each other. We are here in support of each other. I did not say that it would not work, and as you are a new member, I of course, have no idea what your story entails - what you may have tried and what the results were. But I do know what I have seen, and so I just encouraged you to look into other possible therapies.

So, what have you tried? What were the results? You can read my story on here, but we don't have any way of knowing what your story is until you choose to tell us.

I'm very sorry that you seem to believe that I'm challenging you - as I was not. I was only hoping to be of some help in suggesting that you look into therapies that are known to be of help. Please do not shoot the messenger, as there will likely be others that may suggest other treatments as well simply because we don't know what you have tried or what the results were.

Dear Traveler,

I really thank you, you are helping me a lot with your words.
I can start writing you my story, but not from the beginning right now.
I am starting from the end.
Ibelieve in this forum, most of you are north american, right?
I am not, I am Italian and living in Switzerland.
And you probably do not the following points:

1. In Switzerland, they treat you for Lyme only your are in a chair.
They do not treat someone like me that I have quite a acceptable life even with many issues.

2. If any doctor has the bad idea to give antibiotics for Lyme, he/she might be sued by government and loose his/her license very very likely

3. Recently I took part to a conference in Italy where special guest was Dr. Horowitz. He explained that his treatment is based on rotating antibiotics until he finds the right ones for that person. So it means that each person react differently to these drugs

As you can see, it is not only what is my story and what I have done, it is also what I could really do it, since I do not have so much help in the country where I live.
I was thinking to Intravenous laser therapy because Germany is very close from where I live and it might be possible to have this treatment without going to any Swiss doctor who is not very keen even to listen my problems.

Please let me know what you think about it.
And if you are interested I can write you more.

Cheers
Posted 7/2/2017 3:28 PM (GMT -5)
We definitely would like to hear more about the intravenous laser therapy - as I'm not sure that it's ever been discussed on this forum previously.

While it may or may not be that bad here in the US (where many of us live, but not all by any means) as it is in Switzerland, but we do have essentially the same issues. I was completely housebound and had doctors turning me away because they "didn't want to take on such a complicated case at this time" - and yet I talk to others that have been to those same doctor both before and after I had tried, and they got the exact same response as I did. That is unfortunately very common around the world.

And, we don't share LLMD names in open forums because our LLMD's that ARE treating these infections properly are being brought up on charges that are exaggerated (usually), and then are either fined into the loss of their practice, or it's out right shut down. The situation is very similar all over the world.

But, since I have never even visited Switzerland, I have no idea what may or may not be available to you over there - and that's why I was suggesting that you check into the treatments that have been working for others in many areas - not just abx, but herbal, BVT, Rife and others.

I do believe I have the name of at least one LLMD in Germany though, and if you would like to send me an email, I'd be happy to share that name with you - and any other areas I may have that you would like to check into.
Posted 7/2/2017 8:01 PM (GMT -5)
I've never done it myself, but my LLMD offers it. I have heard mixed reviews. Some have great results, and some don't notice anything. Of the people I've talked to about it, most have said they think ozone is more effective, but it can't hurt to try. I think it's a little pricey, though.
Posted 7/3/2017 12:44 AM (GMT -5)

1000Daisies said...
Are you referring to UVLrx? I think that's the same thing that you are referring to, but I wanted to be sure.

If you are talking about UVLrx, it's relatively new to the doctors (MD and NP) that we see. I've debated taking Kid#2 for it. I waiver on it. I was going to do it but then changed my mind. If I can't get him back to school regularly this upcoming year, then I will likely try it.


It is not exactly UVLrx, because you might have different rays. You may have red, green, yellow, blue and ultra violet rays.
The concept is that the irradiation is made intravenous.
All these rays have different properties. The ultraviolet is highly bactericide. The yellow is antidepressant.
The concept is old but the application to Lyme disease is quite new.
What I would like to know is if this worked for someone at least.
I have not found any patient writing about his/her experience.
Posted 7/3/2017 2:42 AM (GMT -5)
What you are describing is the Dinshah Treatment.

I have been using Green and Lemon. I know that the book (Let There Be Light) says to use Green and Blue, but in the Metrychrome Encypedia, he uses green and lemon to cure all of the bacterial diseases.

It was written in the 30's, but he was using it for syphillis at that time. He used Green and Blue for TB.

I have been using light for my medical since 2005. Haven't found anything better from my perspective, if something does come by that I think would be more effective, well I'd be the first to switch.
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