interesting video

Here is an interesting video on Lyme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkY-lckynP0

He says that he treats with just biofilm busters first, for about a month, and then he goes to herbs, and finally treats with abx. I think that actually makes a lot of sense, because if you're treating with abx and biofilm busters, I'd imagine that it's kind of like paddling upstream. The spirochetes are actively creating biofilms to hide from the abx, and although the biofilm busters are ripping down the biofilms, the spirochetes inside the biofilms are busy making more biofilms.

So if you treat with biofilm busters before herbs or abx, the spirochetes aren't as concerned when they loose their "house" because they don't have anything to hide from. So you destroy their house, and then when they don't have any place to hide, then you hit them with herbs and abx. Seems like a good strategy to me.

He also says that it will take about 1 year of very aggressive therapy to mostly rid your body of the spirochetes. He says most people will actually take 2-3 years of moderately aggressive therapy. But he says that once you have chronic lyme, you always have lyme, so after you destroy the majority of the spirochetes, you need to be on a maintenance plan, which is nattokinase. Although, I'm not sure if herbs are part of his maintenance plan. I don't think he says. I would imagine that if you still had spirochetes, you'd need something to continually kill them.

Thanks

Hi Georgia Hunter,

That's a very interesting post, but could you dumb it down for the likes of me? Are you saying that the spirochetes are living in the gut? I have cherry angiomas.

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So the spirochetes are essentially enabling leaky gut syndrome due to inflammation, and the bacteria in the gut are allowed to travel throughout the body.

gfields said...
So the spirochetes are essentially enabling leaky gut syndrome due to inflammation, and the bacteria in the gut are allowed to travel throughout the body.

Correct, but they don't stay throughout the body, they only colonize where they can. That would be biofilms, synovial fluid, orifices, the extracellular matrix in joints, and other places of diminished blood flow and immune response.

Georgia hunter.. Very thorough explanation, so essentially what you're saying is that leaky gut causes the bacteria of our gut's microbiome to become systemic, hence joint popping and overall inflammation. Very plausible because I didn't pay attention to leaky gut until I got fed up with not being 100% well. I must say that when I started taking liposomal colostrum (a standout brand from sovereign laboratories), I couldn't believe the results I was getting in terms of bowel movement and sleep. After about only two weeks using it, the strength and stamina I am getting in the gym is really something. I truly believe in its healing benefits and I'm gonna take it forever lol.

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cr3ativegirl said...
Georgia, reading up on manganese and zinc and there is controversy on supplementation because Lyme likes to use them...i take extra zinc!

https://phys.org/news/2013-03-scientists-reveal-quirky-feature-lyme.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23690398 here is some study. maybe you can make heads or tails of it.

I'm aware of the controversy, I feel they are wrong in not supplementing. There is no doubt that borrelia utilizes manganese the way other bacteria utilize iron. What people are missing is the fact that borrelia can't live on its own. It must take what it needs from us and manganese is what it wants the most. There are almost certainly other metals/nutrients/products that it gets from us that we don't know about. But manganese isn't iron, we don't eat a lot of it. When borrelia steals our manganese, we can get in a situation where we don't have enough and that lowers lactobacillus numbers, lowers agrinase activation which increases ammonia, reduces Mn-SOD reactions in the mitochondria, reduces proteoglycan production (they make up the extracellular matrix and regulate ion transit), and they decreases almost all enzymatic reactions in the body. Talk about systemic malfunction.

I don't have a set recommendation on what to supplement, I believe we should supplement what we don't have enough of. Manganese is one thing we run low on. Supplement it and you may feel worse. As your levels increase, so does your immune response. That is why some people require lower levels than others.

I look at how borrelia causes our problems and what we need to do to correct those problems. I don't see many scientific papers doing that.

ChickenArise said...

Inflammation triggered by eating is one of these humps. The gut improves, begins to heal, but then never completely heals.

The inflammation has decreased dramatically when I take high doses of Magnesium and Flax. Yet I have had to put this on the backburner because I have been on Doxy and Mino more than off . High doses of Magnesium would be dangerous with these drugs.

I await topical MgCl to try to safely get these levels up.

Magnesium can decrease the effectiveness of doxy and mino...what did you mean by 'dangerous'?

Im traveling so it took a while to get a chance to reply. Went to Panama city for ozone in blood and injections in back, knees, mouth.

All of my dental implants are now out.

The oral spirochetes cant hide around the micro gaps anymore. I hope it helps but it will be a while before I can make a fair assessment about anything I have done.

I have one more ozone treatment scheduled for the end of the month coinciding with a Texas Hold em tournament here in Panama City, so that should be fun as it has been a few years.

The doc recommended I get a machine for home use and I told him I am planning to. I suspect the ozone jump starts the immune system. I have heard doctor's like Robert Rowan say it can do this.

The doctor here hooked me up this time with an even better bargain than the last time. He gave me all the injections, a vitamin C drip, and the autohemotherapy for just the cost of the latter, $120.

My son went with me the previous time and got everything I mentioned except the injections. His recurring bronchitis problem cleared completely. He doesnt sound like a pack a day smoker anymore. I told the doctor how well he is doing and how pleased I was and thanked him profusely.

Girlie, There are some warnings about magnesium toxicity with Doxy, Mino. I think it is more of a problem with large doses one may get with IV Magnesium but I am playing it safe.

My face is so dry, scaly, and red from the tetracyclines. I tried to take them every other day but looks like I need another extended break. I remaining on a low daily dose of 250mg Zithro for now to battle that intermittent thing in my lung which feels mostly gone but reminds me it is still there.

With the break I can retest the high dose flax, and magnesium soon.

GH, thanks for the elaboration and initial insightful post. If you had a blog I would totally read it.

I bought some Life Extension brand manganese (as amino and chelate) on a whim and took it today and tried 10mg.

I expected to feel nothing. Boy was I mistaken. I cant say good or bad but it feels like you do before you get a flu. Some muscle weakness, malaise, and feeling partly cloudy. I am glad I didnt take a large dose. Going to stick with it in small supplemental doses.

I prefer to get most of my minerals from Himalayan Salt. I think many of these bottled combination trace element supplements provide little more than the natural salt, which is way cheaper.

Customs is holding up my most recent vitamin shipment and my friends heart medication. They decided to make a new law so my friend would have to get a local doctors Rx before they release it to him. He did this but the wait times here can be unpredictable. Its a bit scary.

Many expats here are getting fed up with law changes. Many never attained permanent residency and have left for other countries or are planning to leave.

It used to be that you simply crossed the border and get an exit stamp at customs every 6 months to renew your US Visa.

When I arrived here in 2014 one could exit and return the country within the same day thus renewing their US Visa in a perpetual tourist manner. At least 1 in 5 expats lived here this way.

Months ago it was then changed to 72 hours out of the country.

With the recent level of acceleration of the crisis in Venezuela igniting fears of mass immigration here, it was recently changed requiring a minimum 30 day exit the first time and 90 day exit the subsequent time.

These changes happen around here with little to no notice, but I digress.