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Posted 8/19/2017 8:58 PM (GMT -5)
So, I have been sick for a long time, treating for the last eight months. I have clearly positive test results for Lyme and babesia, and all the expected symptoms. But sometimes I wonder if there is something else I am missing. I mean, I have always been super healthy and I feel like maybe there is something else weakening my body and letting these infections take over. Can't help but wonder right?
Several years ago I got two titanium dental implants, so now I'm wondering about those. This kinda gets into pseudo science, energetics stuff and it hard for me to know how likely it is that the implants are causing problems. Looks like Dick Van **** suffered for years before finding his implants at fault.
And now my dentist is recommending another implant...so do I get number three...or have the first two removed?!

Wondering if there is any way to tell without having them pulled?
And how many of you have titanium implants?
Do you all think implants can cause chronic health issues?
Posted 8/19/2017 9:02 PM (GMT -5)
Ha Ha. The auto edit thinks his last name is a bad word. Dick Van D, from the TV show.
Posted 8/19/2017 9:33 PM (GMT -5)
I think you will find just as many pros and cons on this subject.

I think Magoo will definitely be a person that says get the implants out.

I am in the process of getting an implant right now. I have been symptom free for a year. Guess I will be able to tell you soon.

Honestly, is a bridge any better??? It has metals in it. I don't know enough to be a good source of information.

One thing I do know, stress about anything will definitely cause lyme symptoms.
Posted 8/19/2017 9:58 PM (GMT -5)
PeteZa a bridge is on you and implant are in you-that's a major different for your immune system.

You immune system is designed to find what isn't you and kill it. so implants tend to wear down your system and open the door to various bugs

If one get implants you would want to get a Clifford test to see if you are allergic to the materials. Don't work with a dds who just jams some metal in your mouth that you may be allergic- it will be in your body 24-7-365 days till the day you die.

Some studies show immune system goes down by about half with metal or said another way you could double your immune system by removing metal-which could be very helpful.

Metal also tends to rust-my biological dds tells me every time he pulled titanium implants out that they have ring of rust around them-that cant be good.

PS breast implants can also be cause of lower immune system-Yolonda Foster said she got 70% better after taking hers out

Post Edited (magoo2) : 8/19/2017 9:11:12 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/20/2017 2:57 PM (GMT -5)
It could be. This is considered a drastic measure to remove them. I did but you have to make this decision as it is not an easy one.

If any of your teeth came out hollow in the middle with decay from the inside out after showing decay at the base of the tooth, I would think you are dealing with oral spirochetes at minimum.

This, the age and failed condition of my implants, and sore gums at the base of the implants helped me to make this decision. Watching Dr. William D Nordquist's videos helped educate me.

The antibiotics were not going to get to these areas with implants in. Getting sick may have affected how my body deals with foreign objects and metals.

The information all came to me as I was considering and scheduling implant replacements. The local dentist said the new would likely fail due to the bone loss in the jaw.

I feel as if the universe sends me messages confirming and reassuring me that I made a wise choice for myself.

If you have tried it all and you relapse time and again it should certainly be a consideration.

Remember that teeth which are removed should have the periodontal ligament removed also, otherwise bone will not fill in this area and a pocket of void will create an area that bacteria will make use of to hide. This happens when we remove wisdom teeth which is another bad choice suggested by dentists more often than it is ever a necessary procedure.

That ring of rust was present on my removed implants. The bone at the point where they were attached was not soft (thank God).
Posted 8/20/2017 3:20 PM (GMT -5)
C.A. so ylou had a ring of rust around your implants-what were they made of?
Posted 8/20/2017 3:27 PM (GMT -5)
Yikes - rust?


So, would zirconium be better (if you don't react adversely to it)?

Has anyone seen a zirconium implant removed - and did it have rust, too.
Posted 8/20/2017 3:34 PM (GMT -5)

magoo2 said...
C.A. so ylou had a ring of rust around your implants-what were they made of?

Yes. Unmistakable rust. The word ring actually minimizes the rust a bit. I had titanium implants that were a decade and a half in age.

There are other metals in these implants as well as they are alloys and not pure titanium.
Posted 8/20/2017 5:14 PM (GMT -5)
So would it be fair to say titanium will rust?

I wonder if everyone who has titanium implants for ten years has rust around them??? could explain LOTS of sickness

Good God that cant be good for your health
Posted 8/20/2017 5:48 PM (GMT -5)
hmmm..I wonder about hip and knee replacements - what are used in them? Probably rusting, too.

I don't know - rust is iron, right? I guess it depends on how much is leeching into your bloodstream.
Posted 8/20/2017 6:08 PM (GMT -5)
The implants rusting is one big issue.
Having anything in your body that's not you is another. Your immune system will keep trying to get rid of anything that isn't you. Over time this will wear you down and open the door to various bugs
Posted 8/21/2017 7:55 AM (GMT -5)
Dr. K does not recommend titanium. At best, it would be zirconium. Or no implant.

My lyme doctor said titanium tests energetically good for NO ONE. He hasn't found a person whose body would react neutral or positive to titanium.

he's a follower of dr. K and a fantastic kinesiologic tester.

He is categorical: with chronic illnesses, avoid titanium.

Any metal in the mouth or IN the bones will act like an antenna, getting wifis, electrosmog, cell phone frequencies... it seems that zirconium is the only metal that does not do that as it behaves like ceramic.

It's though, an INVASIVE thing to put anything inside the teeth, but aesthetically, it's a good solution to get implants than bridges or partials.

I was given no choice, due to my poor health condition (immune system is not strong enough, lyme almost killed me literally), so my lyme doctor would not endorse any metals, not even zirconium in my case.

I think though stronger people would stand zirconium implants, specially if their bones are stronger than mine.

Most serious biological dentists would not recommend titanium implants. These are only highly regarded by normal dentists, that say titanium cannot cause allergies, is stable, and perfect for every single person on the planet. They would swear on titanium.
Posted 8/21/2017 7:59 AM (GMT -5)
https://www.paracelsus.com/biological-dentistry

The most recent wave of “innovation” was the rise of dental implants.

The more modern implants were made of titanium, which is usually not highly reactive inside the body, but nevertheless is a source of focal inflammation for most patients.

Unfortunately, for many patients titanium creates a more acute reaction, contributing to inflammation and impairment of the immune system.

Many patients are not initially sensitive to the titanium in their mouths but become reactive over time.

Not surprisingly, about 50% of all such implants fail within a decade, adding to the patient’s oral health issues.
Posted 8/21/2017 8:04 AM (GMT -5)
http://naturaldentistry.us/3111/cell-phones-and-metal-dental-implants-dont-mix/

How metalic implants may harm your immune system.


https://www.drsinatra.com/could-your-joint-replacement-or-dental-fillings-be-reacting-to-emfs

Metallic implants causing heart symptoms.
Posted 8/21/2017 8:06 AM (GMT -5)
I have titanium implants and have not noticed any issues with mine. They have been in for over 2 years now.
Posted 8/21/2017 8:10 AM (GMT -5)
sophia institute opinion on titanium and zirconium:


The common material used for dental implants today is titanium, which is used without ensuring its biocompatibility with the individual receiving it as well as its biocompatibility with all other materials they have in their body.

Titanium has been problematic for many patients due to allergies to the metal, the toxicity of the metal leading to many other acute and chronic conditions, and/or increases in autoimmune conditions after implantation.

Also, if there is already another type of metal in the mouth, then oral galvanism, or the creation of an electrical current, becomes an issue.

This current can interfere with our neurological system, which is composed of different action potentials or electrical currents that travel through our bodies.


A new alternative to a titanium implant is a zirconium derivative, zirconium dioxide (ZrO2), also called zirconia.

It is a colorless solid with exceptional fracture toughness and chemical resistance.

Zirconia is an electrically neutral ceramic that is highly biocompatible and does not have any interference field characteristics.

Interference fields are found all over our body and are local irritations in our tissue that can cause destabilization of our autonomic nervous system locally or systemically (oral galvanism being one example).

Dental interference fields are typically silent locally but create many problems in other parts of our bodies.


Zirconia implants are biocompatible so gum regeneration is possible around the implants (this does not happen with titanium).

Zirconia is metal free and much closer in composition to our natural teeth than titanium, reducing the risk of inflammation.

Because it is not a metal, oral galvanism is also not a concern.
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