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Posted 10/24/2017 4:54 AM (GMT -5)
Hello! I just have some quick questions regarding the accuracy of the results. I’m fairly certain I have Lyme and Co from a clinical standpoint and my Armin tests, but have been warned that Armin Labs can throw up false positives - is this possible, and is there any info about the specificity / accuracy of these tests?

My results showed weak positive for Borrelia, Bartonella and Chlamydia Pneu., and strong positive for Babesia and Mycoplasma. These results do make sense with my clinical symptoms.

From my perspective, it seems the positive results on multiple infections mean that, despite any possibility of false positives, that one, several or all of the tests must be truly positive (due to the highly unlikely nature of having 5/6 false positives). Hope that makes sense, just wanted to clear this up for myself before I pursue treatment to check that Lyme / co-infections are my issue and there’s nothing else that’s going on (could be other stuff going on even if I do have Lyme of course, can't rule anything out).

Lastly, is it common to have Bartonella marks in the groin area (inner thigh to upper groin), and can these be lighter red / silvery / stretch-marky rather than a deep red?

Hope someone can help! Thanks a lot.
Posted 10/24/2017 1:22 PM (GMT -5)
Weak positive is still positive. I would think the Armin test is like the Igenex test in that your body's immune system response to the bacteria can dictate a low to high result.

A strong positive for Babesia will also indicate you have other infections. Whatever gave you Babesia, most likely gave you some others(s) - lyme, and or bart...etc.

You do know you have Babesia - so why would you question pursuing treatment?
Treat Babesia first....and see what your response is.....with Babesia meds, you are also tackling Lyme.

The Bartonella marks can be any are of the body and yes, can be lighter red. (i'm not sure about silver color)

I did a search on the forum - Here's a thread from this forum discussing the color. One of our Veteran members/Moderator - posted they can be colorless (not red)

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3563188
Posted 10/26/2017 2:21 PM (GMT -5)
I have some stretch marks of both colors. I am not sure if they are bartonella marks or stretch marks. My lighter ones are on my upper thighs / groin area and under my armpits. The darker ones are on my stomach.

I am 35 y/o male and currently weigh 180. I was about 215 when this crap started for me.

I am amazed my wife that had 2 babies does not have a single stretch mark... rrrggghh what gives
Posted 10/26/2017 2:36 PM (GMT -5)
That's interesting about the false positives from Armin. My kids and hubby all had positive tests through them but have no symptoms. I've always thought either a) you can carry lyme bacteria and be fine or b) the test is not accurate. Where did you hear about false positives?
Posted 10/26/2017 7:15 PM (GMT -5)
my opinion is you are more likely to get false negatives
Posted 10/26/2017 7:57 PM (GMT -5)
I didn't think there were any false positives...You think a LLMD would start questioning positives?
Posted 10/27/2017 6:29 AM (GMT -5)
And how much did you pay for that test with coinfections? I'm assuming close to 1000 euros?
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