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Posted 10/29/2017 1:49 AM (GMT -5)
I don't want to pay $600 for a test and am trying to determine based on symptoms:

Am I exposed to ochratoxin, aflatoxin, tricothene, and or gliotoxin?

Many of my now resolved symptoms were: Brain Fog, headaches above the center of the eyebrow, restricted and painful breathing, stings, shocks, beetles flaying Into my ears with precision accuracy. Muscle inflammation, knee joint inf.,ice pick headache, vibrations in leg, scalp rash, hair loss, white circles in my mouth, black tongue, lethargy, skin crawling like mites, black specks, chest pain. testicular pain. night sweats, waking early, tinnitus.

Symptoms which remain are:
white sand specks, itchy skin, dehydrated skin, red face, marks that look like I scratched myself that scab in a perforated pattern, back of throat, hands, and feet glow under UV light, some congestion, thirst, increased dry booger production, inflammation of feet, legs, and back muscles, left eye vision loss and some discharge. mild tremor

Symptoms absent are nausea, convulsions, air hunger

I am trying to see which are most likely and to determine if I need cholestyramine.
Posted 10/29/2017 2:12 AM (GMT -5)
Chicken,. I am waiting for the results of my realtime lab test checking for all the different toxins. Some of my symptoms match yours some were different anyway I'm thankful that the insurance company paid for cuz it would have been another $1,000 test. Did youRemediation in your house? And do you think it helped? I'll let you know when I get my test results back if you're interested. My doctor usually calls me when the tests are negative and there's nothing to worry about but I haven't heard from her so I'm going to accept the probably positive inevitable outcome. Oh God I got to go back to bed
Posted 10/29/2017 2:18 AM (GMT -5)
Chicken? "beetles flaying Into my ears with precision accuracy." WTH?
Posted 10/29/2017 7:00 AM (GMT -5)
I have had the butterfly sound in my ear before. I have all kinds of strange tinnitus. I did the realtime labs but only came up high for gliotoxin, which can be mold or candida. Go figure, another answer that isn't straight.

We do have some overlap in symptoms. My skin crawled all over (worse at night) about 4 or 5 years ago. I read about demodex mites and freaked out. I had been diagnosed with rosacea (your red face??) and I believe there is some link. My rosacea was type 2 - just little spots on my cheeks. It went away with a month of mino and never came back. I think this was the first sign of my weakened immune system. I bought sibu sea buckthorn soap and oil and religiously washed and applied the oil (mixed with some lotion) every night. I did some other things but can't recall. After 6 months it went away. I should note at the time itching started we purchased a new memory foam mattress and it could have been that and not mites (-: I will also still itch in certain hotel rooms.

You could try the different binders for each mold type and see if you get relief. Dr. Neil Nathan outlines which ones he uses in his last mold book.

Also, great plains is now offering a urine mycotoxin test - I think it's around $400. Still pricey...
/www.greatplainslaboratory.com/gplmycotox
Posted 10/29/2017 8:38 AM (GMT -5)
Chicken,

Cholestyramine, according to Shoemaker, is good for binding all mycotoxins and borellia toxins. If you don't want to spend the money on the test, then the best way to cover your bases would be:

1). See if your doc will prescribe cholestyramine. Pure is best but pricey.

2). Spend $300 on a Mycometrics mold test to test your home for current mold exposure. If you work or spend a lot of time outside the home, you will need to test that environment, too.

3). Another test you should consider is the HLA-DR genetic test, which insurance may cover. Mine did.
Posted 10/29/2017 11:19 AM (GMT -5)
you have/had a lot of overlap symptoms with morgellons
Posted 10/29/2017 2:36 PM (GMT -5)

k07 said...
I have had the butterfly sound in my ear before. I have all kinds of strange tinnitus. I did the realtime labs but only came up high for gliotoxin, which can be mold or candida. Go figure, another answer that isn't straight.

We do have some overlap in symptoms. My skin crawled all over (worse at night) about 4 or 5 years ago. I read about demodex mites and freaked out. I had been diagnosed with rosacea (your red face??) and I believe there is some link. My rosacea was type 2 - just little spots on my cheeks. It went away with a month of mino and never came back. I think this was the first sign of my weakened immune system. I bought sibu sea buckthorn soap and oil and religiously washed and applied the oil (mixed with some lotion) every night. I did some other things but can't recall. After 6 months it went away. I should note at the time itching started we purchased a new memory foam mattress and it could have been that and not mites (-: I will also still itch in certain hotel rooms.

You could try the different binders for each mold type and see if you get relief. Dr. Neil Nathan outlines which ones he uses in his last mold book.

Also, great plains is now offering a urine mycotoxin test - I think it's around $400. Still pricey...
/www.greatplainslaboratory.com/gplmycotox

Trying different binders sounds feasible. I did notice great improvement with Modified Citrus Pectin. Thanks for the input.

Purrrsiankitty said...
... Did you Remediate your house? And do you think it helped? I'll let you know when I get my test results back if you're interested. ...

Yes. Although there was no one to do it out here professionally we did what we could. I just recently sprayed another layer of Concrobium Mold Control Spray as it seemed to be trying to comeback. We run commercial ozone. Exhaust fan in attic to create negative air pressure. Hepa filters in the sleep areas. Its cut down greatly on the mold.

I would be very interested in your test results.
Posted 10/29/2017 2:42 PM (GMT -5)
Yes, I get a lot of improvement with MCP too. Recently upped to twice a day and feeling a bit better.
Posted 10/29/2017 5:18 PM (GMT -5)

WalkingbyFaith said...
Chicken,

Cholestyramine, according to Shoemaker, is good for binding all mycotoxins and borellia toxins. If you don't want to spend the money on the test, then the best way to cover your bases would be:

1). See if your doc will prescribe cholestyramine. Pure is best but pricey.

2). Spend $300 on a Mycometrics mold test to test your home for current mold exposure. If you work or spend a lot of time outside the home, you will need to test that environment, too.

3). Another test you should consider is the HLA-DR genetic test, which insurance may cover. Mine did.

I am going to see if I can get the cholestyramine from India as I have no health insurance. Thanks.

Lapis, yes the Morgellons complicated things but it is under control after the antihelmintic protocol. Much of these symptoms have vanished in my case. Only the grains of sand my body still ejects from time to time match Morgellons, but they are much fewer in number and occurrence. My skin will still eject a UV florescent powdery like substance from time to time but this is also minimal and not uncomfortable.

The true test will be when I stop Fluconazole as the last time I stopped it, symptoms got bad.

Thanks for all of the good input everyone!

k07 said...
Yes, I get a lot of improvement with MCP too. Recently upped to twice a day and feeling a bit better.

Which one(s) is MCP supposed to be effective against?

I was told Red Raspberry leaves are effective for mold and I have taken them daily for a couple months but don't find these effective in any noticeable way.

I have recently begun Bentonite clay.
Posted 10/29/2017 5:26 PM (GMT -5)
mcp does similar things as cholestyramine, it binds to bile acids and helps remove them. both proven to reduce cholesterol

but cholesty is more affecitve at this. but mcp does not cause constipation like cholesty does
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