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Posted 11/7/2017 8:20 PM (GMT -5)
I'm currently being treated on my 4 month of antibiotics. This is my second time on antibiotics in 3 years. Since my initial diagnosis and treatment I've been tested numerous times by my Lyme doctor. I was initially diagnosed with Lyme and anaplasmosis. After about a year of treatment with abx and herbals, my tests came out negative. Then after a couple years, some of my symptoms returned and was retested, this time just shy of CDC positive with Lyme. Now I was tested again and my Lyme markers have gone down again but this time I tested positive for Bartonella

Had anyone tested positive for something after treatment? My Lyme doc thinks my immune system is getting better, at least according to my cd57 numbers and that the abx I'm taking is helping with the Bartonella. Any thoughts or ideas? Thanks.
Posted 11/7/2017 8:26 PM (GMT -5)
Testing isn't reliable enough to really use it for determining if we have active infections and when to stop treatment.(unless it is a pcr - showing the dna of the bacteria still in your blood...but not a WB)

If you've never fully treated bartonella, and you tested positive, along with having symptoms...then it should be treated.

What lyme abx are you on? And, do you still have symptoms?


BTW - were you symptom free when you stopped treatment the first time - a couple years ago?


I tested positive for bartonella via pcr after a year of bartonella targeted treatment.

Was your bart test pcr ?
Posted 11/7/2017 8:50 PM (GMT -5)
I'm currently taking azithromycin, Nystatin, grapefruit seed extract, boluoke and stevia. Plus a bunch of other supplements like iteres and transfer factor. I'm about to start the ACS Lyme support sprays.

Yes the tests were PCR, I had to look over all my blood tests to find where it says it.

As yes was I very nearly symptom free. I was taking herbals which didn't feel as rough on my body. I was hoping to switch back to herbals this past week, but since I tested positive for the Barts it's gonna be at practice another 6 weeks.

As far as symptoms, the biggest now is lack of energy and fatigue. with stomach issues, muscles and joint aches, and some brain fog. There's definitely been improvement in the last few months. I don't herx as often, but when I do it is rough. I'm hoping my energy improves some more. I can't remember which symptoms are Bart specifically. I know a ton overlap with Lyme and others.
Posted 11/7/2017 10:28 PM (GMT -5)
Okay - so a PCR positive - yes active infection.
But a PCR negative can't be relied on to gauge if you're in remission.
It just means the DNA of the bacteria wasn't seen in the sample.

For Bart Azithromycin isn't enough on its own - as far as abx treatment goes.
Is there a plan to add Rifampin to the Zithromax?
Posted 11/7/2017 10:34 PM (GMT -5)
cheetah if you want to treat bart via herbals you can try some that buhner recommends. dr. MR in seattle also has had success using houttuynia and sida acuta (or cordifolia) combo for eradicating bart.

zithromax won't do a heck of a lot against bart if anything. its better than a beta lactam class of abx for gram negative double walled pathogens like bartonella but they don't seem to do much for most folks.
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