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Posted 11/8/2017 4:15 PM (GMT -5)
Hello, I am feeling so incredibly awful today, like I've been hit by a semi trucksad My 6 year old has been sick so I don't know if I'm herxing, having a flare or maybe getting sick too! Maybe it's a combination...super!! I started taking a supplement called the Candida cleanse since I can't get rid of this yeast infection or angular cheilitis. Some of the ingredients are: Oregano leaf, caprylic acid, aloe vera, arabinogalactan(50mg), anise seed(50mg), black walnut hulls (50mg), wormwood leaf powder (50mg) and reishi mushroom (25mg). I realize some of these can also kill Lyme but I wasn't sure if the amount was enough to do that. If you have any knowledge on these herbs I'd love to hear. I wish we had some type of bell or something that would signal if we were having a herx or not (maybe not a bell since that would be hard with headaches!!!). I always feel if I'm herxing then that's a good thing, if I'm in a flare not so much!!
Posted 11/8/2017 4:53 PM (GMT -5)
Those herbs could certainly cause a herx. Getting sick can cause cytokine induced inflammation, which to me, feels different.

For me, a herx is usually one or more of my regular symptoms getting worse or old symptoms coming back.

Cytokines feel more like all-over inflammation and often, burning and feeling inflamed in my skin and brain.
Posted 11/8/2017 5:41 PM (GMT -5)
How long have you been on Candida Cleanse?

I'm pretty sure I'm on the same supplement - the brand I'm on is Purely Holistic. It does have several ingredients that kill off multiple things, so it's hard to say if it's a candida herx, a Lyme herx, or even something else.

I started to herx after about a week of taking it (plus also started taking monolaurin at the same time). I had ridiculously bad fatigue (my main symptom) that wasn't alleviated with rest. I stopped taking it for two days, partly to get some relief, but also to confirm that it was a herx. It was the first time I've ever had an obvious herx so it took me a little while to figure out!

I also had been taking it with very little detox in place. Just chlorella/spirulina, for however much that counts. Pirouette gave me excellent advice on detox in this thread:

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3936623

I've been back on both the Candida Cleanse and the monolaurin for a bit over a week, and I'm tolerating it better now (with more detox in place). If you read the reviews on Amazon, a lot of people report initial herxes that subside.

I sincerely hope you start feeling better soon!
Posted 11/8/2017 7:12 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks walkingbyfaith and biscotta! Yes, that is the same supplement that I'm taking, it's been about a week since I started. I was going to take diflucan and decided I wanted to try the natural treatment first. I felt just fine yesterday and then today out of no where my 'button' was pushed and every part of me felt awful! Super tired and achy along with all my symptoms that come and go, feelingvsuper irritable on top of it! So ready for the symptoms to stay gone!! I might take a break from it too and see if I feel better. Thanks for your feedback!
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