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Posted 11/16/2017 12:39 AM (GMT -5)
I have been on the Buhner protocol doing pretty well the last 6 months, and have recently started the Bart and Babs protocols the last 2 months. I've slowly worked up to taking the full dose of recommended herbs for Bart and Babs recently.

about a month and a half ago I had a very bad stomach flu, after which I noticed a change in my progress. Certain symptoms that I hadn't had for months re-appeared. Now, a month and a half since this stomach flu, I have had a full on flare up of morgellons symptoms that I have haven't had since starting my anti-biotics almost two years ago.

I can't figure out if my morgellons has come back due to increasing my dose of bart and babesia herbs as a herx, or if this is a delayed flare up of some sort?

I was hoping to not have to go back on anti-biotics, but my flare up has been so bad that I went and filled a prescription I had from before...

Has anyone had any experience dealing with morgellons? Is this something that's common?

Appreciate any input from you guys, thanks
Posted 11/16/2017 9:46 AM (GMT -5)
Hi I had similar experience recently. I'm at work now but will respondore later or feel free to email me. Jo
Posted 11/16/2017 2:51 PM (GMT -5)
Hi akreative -

It could be several triggers -

The increase in the bart and babs herbs almost always set me back a bit. You could be herxing, which challenges everything and your immune system. Sometimes it's necessary to slow things down, titrate up doses and herbs more slowly.

Are you sure it was "the stomach flu"...? Perhaps it was a coinfection that become more dominant? Very tough to know.

It could still be your body struggling with a weakened immune system due to the flu or whatever surged and this has allowed the other pathogens to flare.

Don't feel bad about going back on abx - if that's what worked before. But also give your immune system all the boost you can - be sure to have a very clean and supportive and healing diet. Be sure to include a strong GI binder, do as much detoxing as you can.

Hopefully Jo has good suggestions for you.

-p
Posted 11/16/2017 3:04 PM (GMT -5)
/www.nbcnews.com/leftfield/video/does-lyme-disease-cause-morgellons-1097342531585
Posted 11/16/2017 3:22 PM (GMT -5)

mpost said...
/www.nbcnews.com/leftfield/video/does-lyme-disease-cause-morgellons-1097342531585

so morgellons could be symptom of lyme. interesting.
Posted 11/16/2017 6:29 PM (GMT -5)
So I am very sorry you have had an increase in symptoms. Morgellons/bart symptoms are especially hard to deal with.

I had recently reached about 95 to 98 % better after 13 months of treatment.(un diagnosed (Lyme, Bart, Babesia, morg)for a few years before that).

The strong Bart/morg type symptoms like prickly/fiberglass itching, biting and crawling sensations, scalp issues(sand like grit and waxy feeling in hair),sore soles and marks on skin have been gone for a few months.

I only had a few remaining symptoms left from Lyme and co.

In October, I then Had 8 days with no symptoms at all( I thought I was getting close to being healed).
Then a week and a half ago Bart/morg symptoms back and are ongoing


Like Pirouette said:
It could still be your body struggling with a weakened immune system due to the flu or whatever surged and this has allowed the other pathogens to flare


and then increasing your treatment is most likely causing some herxing.

I am seeing my llmd tomorrow and hopefully we can figure this out. I will let you know what she thinks and talk to her about abx again as I am on all Buhner herbal protocols too.


Please try to stay hopeful. I believe we are getting better. Its just going to still take some time.
Take care, Jo
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