Problem with smoking

How about gradually reducing...

If you're currently (for example) smoking 6 per day.

Then tomorrow do 5....and then a few days later do 4....etc. maybe you can get down to one or two per day?
Or, do you think that would cause anxiety.
Find the balance - how low vs anxiety inducing.


At least you will be smoking less..

Lapis_29 said...
switch to vaping.

the vape liquid only has nicotine in it, none of the other highly carcinogenic substances that the whole tobacco plant has, WAY better for you.

also you can get the vape juice with varying amounts of nic in it, so you can gradually taper down over time, very gently.

good idea, Lapis.


...unless the nicotine is also an issue - not just the smoke.


And aren't they now finding out that the Vaping does more damage than originally thought?

Girlie said...

Lapis_29 said...
switch to vaping.

the vape liquid only has nicotine in it, none of the other highly carcinogenic substances that the whole tobacco plant has, WAY better for you.

also you can get the vape juice with varying amounts of nic in it, so you can gradually taper down over time, very gently.

good idea, Lapis.


...unless the nicotine is also an issue - not just the smoke.


And aren't they now finding out that the Vaping does more damage than originally thought?

Yep, when it's compared to not using any tobacco products - but compared to smoking cigarettes, it's a lot healthier. My hubby vapes because he could not quit tobacco after his blood clots to his lungs, so I got him to switch to vaping. The only issue is the nicotine, as it does have negative health consequences, but nothing like smoking "real" cigarettes.

/www.vaporesso.com/cloud-community-blog/vaping-101-which-vape-juice-ingredients-to-avoid

I switch to vaping after I got lyme. I couldn't justify smoking while lyme was kicking my butt and then get frustrated my health was declining. Can't really sit there and complain as you are inhaling poison into your body.

Nicotine as a stand alone compound isn't "bad". It's no worse than caffeine. As a standalone compound it also has mild nootropic affect. It's a stimulate in that way like caffeine.

Now will you still be addicted to nicotine if you switch to vape? Yes. So for those that simply don't want to be addicted or "dependent" on a compound like nicotine out of principle then vaping isn't a guarantee it will happen.

However it does increase the odds greatly.

I went from smoking to 100% not smoking in like 2 weeks. Then I went from a high vaping nicotine content of 24 miligrams to 6 miligrams in like 3 months.

Many people keeping going until they reach zero milligrams. That's the end goal.

If you decide to go this route then do it correctly. Many people don't and then claim "vaping didn't work for me". I call a little bit of BS on that. You have to know what you are doing.

1. get a good vape mod. Don't be cheap and buy a $30 one. Buy one over $100. They are more powerful. And you need that power to replace cigarettes. If it's too weak, it won't satisfy your cravings. You need that heat and lung hit to trick your brain.

2. Start with a high nicotine content. This is a little difficult to do these days as most shops don't even carry them. This is unfortunate as people first getting off cigarettes need the higher amount if they want to be successful. Don't start with a milligram less than 12. I would even recommend 18-24MG even if it's for a week just to get started. You may need to go online to get this level of nicotine content. What you don't want to do is start too low and then it doesn't satisfy your craving and then you decide vaping isn't "working" for you

3. Start with a bold flavor such as cinnamon, mint, or coffee. You will need this more bold and rich flavor to help satisfy your craving. I don't recommend starting off with fruity flavors or creamy flavors as this is too far away from the flavor profile of a cigarette.

Good luck.

Girlie said...

Lapis_29 said...
switch to vaping.

the vape liquid only has nicotine in it, none of the other highly carcinogenic substances that the whole tobacco plant has, WAY better for you.

also you can get the vape juice with varying amounts of nic in it, so you can gradually taper down over time, very gently.

good idea, Lapis.


...unless the nicotine is also an issue - not just the smoke.


And aren't they now finding out that the Vaping does more damage than originally thought?

Research is incomplete. There isn't enough years of data to make any concrete conclusion.

Only educated guesses at this point.

Educated guess that favors that it is not harmful is:

Vape is nicotine, water, and vegetable glycerin. Vegetable glycerin is "edible" and found in foods. Water is water, and nicotine as a stand alone compound isn't "bad".

Therefore not harmful.

Educated guess that doesn't favor that it is not harmful is:

All the above is true, however vegetable glycerin may be edible but that's not the same as heating it up to really high temperature and inhaling it. This "could" have harmful affects in the long term.

But everyone agrees it is leaps and bounds better than cigs because there's no tar or carcinogens.

And then there's the personal observational test. Cigs made me feel bad in a variety of ways. Vape does not at all. In one month, it was like a brand new air filter was installed in my lungs.

Whatever the science may tell in the future, something right is happening.

PeteZa said...
You can try and try all kinds of ways. I know from experience. I did the gum. I got TMJ because I chewed so frantically. I did acupuncture and failed. I did hypnosis and failed. I tried the patch and failed.

How I quit was I got tired of "trying to quit." I realized if I quit, I would no longer be "trying to quit."

I did not want a doctor saying, "you have to quit smoking." So I quit before the doctor could say this.

I quit about 22 years ago. I did not want my nieces, nephews or grandchildren to see me smoking. I did not want them to think it was okay in any way.

So my last resort was the patch again. I did the 27 for 2 weeks, then the 14 for 2 weeks and then the 7 for 2 weeks. But this time I cut those 7's in half and for 2 weeks did 3 1/2 for 2 weeks. Then I made it. I also made scripture cards and put them in my pocketbook so I reached for scripture instead of a cigarette.

I avoided all triggers. I had many. I would "reward" myself with a cigarette when I finished doing the dishes, folding the laundry, working on this project, etc.

I did not drink alcohol. That was another trigger.

I made sure I had busy hands when talking to my girlfriends and family on the phone.

Learn and recognize your triggers.

The physical addiction will take 3 weeks and you will lose that. I think for a year I still would dream I was a smoker. The mental is difficult.

Oh and any excuse was good enough to start smoking again. The sun was in my eyes, I was lonely, I had a hard time at work. Any excuse!

I was an addict.

Now, I am a horribly reformed smoker and if someone is a smoker and stands in the grocery line next to me, I will leave. The smell is so horribly offensive to me.

I am embarrassed that I stunk that badly.

haha yes. cigs smell bad to me now and I no longer like the taste. Because my brain has been retrained to think the vape is where the nicotine comes from and not the cig.

It's so very mental.

bluelyme said...
Please dont do salvia ....talk about bad trip ...the more bart i killed the less anxiety. ...for me itwas oral fixation a licorice stik habit replaced the fix ....

lol that was a total joke. sorry if that wasn't clear. i was saying merely knowing it would be in there would be enough for me to not want to touch that pack of cigs

Psilociraptor said...

bluelyme said...
Please dont do salvia ....talk about bad trip ...the more bart i killed the less anxiety. ...for me itwas oral fixation a licorice stik habit replaced the fix ....

lol that was a total joke. sorry if that wasn't clear. i was saying merely knowing it would be in there would be enough for me to not want to touch that pack of cigs

Would a salvia divinorum tincture have any antibacterial/antiviral properties?
And would a few drops of said tincture still give you a bad trip and cause a massive herx?
I need something that will eradicate the critters from the brain without causing too much of a herx...
Thanks for the info.

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