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Posted 5/26/2018 12:23 AM (GMT -5)
http://www.hormonesmatter.com/fluoroquinolone-toxicity/

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/investigations/popular-antibiotics-linked-to-suicide-thoughts-depression-and-anxiety

Warning: do not take these antibotics they are truly poison. If you suffer from depression anxiety or ptsd it will make it extremely worse it is a crippling antibotic that I wish no one to take. Please do not take it even if a doctor prescribes it to you. You can always take colloidal silver instead that.
Posted 5/26/2018 1:30 AM (GMT -5)
Livingforhope - thanks for your concern, but we do have members taking them, prescribed by their LLMD's.

There are two black box warnings for them - that has been discussed several times on the forum - risk of tendon rupture, and peripheral neuropathy, but it is not common.

People do still decide to take them as they are effective for bartonella treatment.


It's a personal decision.
Posted 5/26/2018 4:34 PM (GMT -5)
Understood. Sorry just had horrific side effects with them I wouldn't want anyone to have.
Posted 5/26/2018 5:38 PM (GMT -5)

Livingforhope said...
Understood. Sorry just had horrific side effects with them I wouldn't want anyone to have.

sorry they affected you that way. So, it was psyche symptoms they caused?


I was prescribed them in April, and I said 'no thanks'. I already have nerve pain, so I wouldn't even know if I was herxing or being floxed from them.
Posted 5/26/2018 8:23 PM (GMT -5)
i took cipro then levaquin both after a few days caused a tightening of my tendon. i was forced to stop even though they're very effective abx particularly for bart. funny cause i don't have a problem with anything but these no good.

i think its safe to say if you have other options try those first given these meds. i mean what other med has a term like floxing associated with it?
Posted 5/27/2018 12:45 AM (GMT -5)
i took cipro and levaquin for 4 months in total. never had any tendon problem. levaquin is a great antibiotic, paired with rifampin it pacified my gut bartonella and my stomach pain went away. such a relief.

i dont think they will be sold if they were such a danger. i agree some people can have side effects.

but there is a minority and the abx are really great against bart, esp levaquin. especially if u failed other regimens i would not turn away from them out of 'horror of the tendons'...
Posted 5/27/2018 12:56 AM (GMT -5)

mpost said...
i took cipro and levaquin for 4 months in total. never had any tendon problem. levaquin is a great antibiotic, paired with rifampin it pacified my gut bartonella and my stomach pain went away. such a relief.

i dont think they will be sold if they were such a danger. i agree some people can have side effects.

but there is a minority and the abx are really great against bart, esp levaquin. especially if u failed other regimens i would not turn away from them out of 'horror of the tendons'...

i looked up the stats once and posted it here. It is like .1 % of people get tendon rupture or something extremely low. Might have been lower than that. I forget.

There are ways to minimize side effects if I understand correctly. Like pulsing and using high dose magnesium.

I always wondered if the tendon issues were actually from a bacteria like bart hiding in the tendons and dying off...
Posted 5/27/2018 1:07 AM (GMT -5)
There's two BB warnings now: the risk of tendon rupture and peripheral neuropathy.

Re: tendon issues actually from bart. Possibly, but then wouldn't there be a link to tendon rupture and other bartonella treatments...like Rifabutin?


Also, I had a discussion with my GP about it...and one of her patients recently had a tendon rupture in the lower leg due to the fluoroquinolones they had been on at the time.

She said it's definitely a risk but it is a rare occurrence.
Posted 5/27/2018 1:28 AM (GMT -5)
i wanted to also add i took doses that are consider on this site pretty high:

1500mg cipro divided in 3 doses for 3 months (!!)
1000mg levaquin divided in 2 doses for 1 month

these are 50-100% higher than what ppl take here. Usual dose is 2x500 cipro or 1x500 levaquin

And i had NO PROBLEMS.
Posted 5/27/2018 2:00 AM (GMT -5)
mpost - that is a higher than usual dose for Cipro.
My prescription for Cipro was 500 mg twice daily and this is from a LLMD who doesn't shy away from higher doses of meds.


Most people do not have problems...but it's still a risk.

The FDA doesn't put Black Box warnings unless there is evidence of a serous risk.


/www.drugwatch.com/fda/black-box-warnings/
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