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Posted 7/28/2018 12:21 PM (GMT -5)
Is it weird to have never had a noticeable herx with any Lyme treatment? I started with herbal treatment last year (MC-BB-1), eventually moved to doxycycline for a few months, and then did a few tetracycline pulses. While my symptoms did wax and wane in severity over time, it has never seemed to correspond to when I would start or change treatments, or when doses were increased. (The only pattern I noticed was that symptoms were often worse right around my period.)

I’ve also never noticed any improvement with any of these treatments. If I were to plot out how my symptoms have changed over time, the graph would show a steady and gradual worsening of symptoms (even taking into account the little ups and downs along the way).

Is it significant to have had no herxes and no improvements with these treatments? Does it suggest I just haven’t found the right treatments, or do you think it suggests that Lyme and company aren’t really the cause of my symptoms?

Thank you
Posted 7/28/2018 12:40 PM (GMT -5)
That's a good question. It could be that you haven't found the most effective therapeutics yet for your case, it can take some trial and error and strategic rotations in the protocol. Some people don't herx it's true, but in general a lot of people do with effective meds. And sometimes it takes decent amount of time on effective therapeutics before one sees improvement. Have you tried any protocols that specifically target bartonella?

It may be that there are also other factors involved in your case. One resource I like for exploring that concept is Dr Horowitz's book How Can I Get Better. He has a 16 point model that examines various other angles for recovering health. Mold, heavy metals, other environmental stressors, etc... there are a lot of other factors that can be involved and could be worth investigating. But given the fact that you have tested positive for lyme and bartonella and the make-up of your symptoms it'd make sense that the infections are an important factor in your case (that's just my non-medical opinion so please take it for what it is worth!).

Have you explored lifestyle changes like diet? often times avoiding refined sugars, processed foods, and even avoiding dairy/gluten can be helpful. Might be worth a shot if you haven't already tried that.
Posted 7/28/2018 6:32 PM (GMT -5)
Hi LilyPanda, a herx is the body's reaction to too much toxins from bugs dying. People will herx differently because a lot of it depends on how much infection you have, the type of infection, how healthy you are and how efficient your liver, kidneys and lymph nodes are at removing toxins from your body.

A person who doesn't smoke, drink alcohol, eats healthy and exercises will be in better shape to handle toxins than someone who's body has been ravaged for years with poor diet, alcohol, drugs and tobacco.

When people start abx, they usually start very slow because of the herx reaction. If you are not having a herx reaction then you can take a bigger dose to get into deeper areas and saturate your blood and tissue faster and more efficiently.
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