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Posted 8/17/2018 3:57 PM (GMT -5)
Hey everyone, been having headaches for the past week (feel like a dull pressure all over). They usually come on whenever I start to move around/walk around a lot or start running. Prior to this week, I'd been headache free for over a month. I've started the Buhner protocol in the past month, about halfway on it right now. I'm not sure if it could be a side effect of one of the herbs, a herx, a flare, or completely unrelated. Anyone have any advice, or should I just keep powering through it?

Hopefully I can get back to being headache free soon. I had a good streak going after I got off my antibiotics a couple months ago.
Posted 8/17/2018 4:04 PM (GMT -5)
I'd guess it is a herx especially since you started new antimicrobials not too long ago, and headaches have been one of your previous symptoms. To be fair I often presume these types of things are herxes.

How debilitating are the headaches? It's very much up to you, you could try and power through it if you feel up to it, or you could take a break from the meds and reintroduce at a lower dosage and then build up over time... either decision is fine imo, it is a very personal choice, I would go with your intuition.
Posted 8/17/2018 5:14 PM (GMT -5)
It's not that bad, they go away if I'm sitting down (which I do for work). Guess I'll take it easy at the gym and during my PT for a little while. Hopefully they go away before long.
Posted 8/17/2018 7:30 PM (GMT -5)
I vote for herx. Which antimicrobial herbs are you taking? Did you recently increase doses on any of them?
Posted 8/17/2018 7:58 PM (GMT -5)
I'm slowly amping up each of them over time. Taking:

x2: Cats Claw 500mg capsules x3 per day
x1: Andrographis 450mg capsule x3 per day
10 drops of Sida Acuta x3 per day
5 drops of Japanese Knotweed x3 per day (New)
1000mg Vit C x1 per day (New)
200mcg Selenium x1 per day (New)

And I have a lot more things to add before I'm on the full Buhner protocol, I'm not even halfway through the list. But I'm getting there.

The items marked as (New) have been introduced within the past week or so (although the knotweed started after my headaches).

I'm increasing the drops of the tinctures by 2 each day until I get to about the middle of the dose range in Buhners books, where I plan on leaving them while I start everything else. If I need to increase the dose later I will, but middle of the range seems like a good starting point.
Posted 8/18/2018 10:32 AM (GMT -5)
Cool, sounds like a good plan. Can always lower dosage if symptoms get to be too much. Based on my presumption that it is a herx, that should be a good sign indicating you are effectively hitting the infections and hopefully that will lead to progress!
Posted 8/18/2018 10:36 AM (GMT -5)

Noah2112 said...
It's not that bad, they go away if I'm sitting down (which I do for work). Guess I'll take it easy at the gym and during my PT for a little while. Hopefully they go away before long.

Wow Noah, does this mean you've recovered enough to the point you are exercising and working? Or were you always this functional before? I'm curious to hear your story, do you have a link somewhere? How much do you think you have recovered (% wise)? How long did it take?

Also, I get those dull headaches you describe with excessive activity as well, but for me it could be as simple as driving to the grocery store nearby or being on my computer for too long. X_X. Around February of this year I thought I had recovered to the point where I can go to the gym again (used to be a gym rat before this illness) and I couldn't do anything because of that debilitating headache and dizziness...seemed to be a baseline symptom to me. I'm guessing it will go away when you are completely finished with your treatment.
Posted 8/18/2018 10:50 AM (GMT -5)
Xpeetzax, just wanted to say that for me headaches have been one of my cornerstone symptoms, one of the most debilitating and frustrating... and they've been constant. It's been a baseline symptom for years, but has improved slowly but surely as I've effectively treated the infections. Like you, I've always been a gym rat, but the headaches (amongst other symptoms) would blow up with any physical effort. I was misdiagnosed for years, and it was so bad I was basically bedridden, spending my days with an ice pack on the back of my head. The feeling of cold helped to slightly distract me from the constant pain.

This last year was the first year I finally was able to get back to the gym and get after it. Symptoms are much improved, but this last month I'm on a new protocol that has been smashing me, amplifying all my symptoms so I've had to take a temporary break. But that's a pattern I'm used to, effective therapeutics always make me herx like crazy...
Posted 8/18/2018 2:07 PM (GMT -5)
Headaches "when moving around"?

So more or less what many call a tension headache - tight neck and or upper back pulling on your head muscles. Yes we have head muscles. A thumb massage to your head can revile tight head muscles, releasing the neck and headache simultaneously.
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