CDC request 350 million for new lab facility

I just wanted to remind everyone on this forum of the Tuskegee experiments conducted by the CDC:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

This is the same experiment they're conducting on us now with Lyme disease, syphillis' cousin.

I'm sure you're aware of operation paperclip and the experiments that went on with lyme disease on Plum island. This is documented fact. Look it up. It's not a conspiracy theory... It was a real life conspiracy.

Operation Northwoods. The CIA proposing a false flag operation to bomb Cuba. FACT. Declassified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Truth is stranger than fiction.

We know the CDC is repressing lyme disease. We know that they know how serious this disease is. They have conducted plenty of research to know the what it does. The reality of the disease. That it kills people... slowly... painfully... Why are they repressing this disease? Why are they lying to the public and telling them it doesn't exist? What's the motive? Who is benefiting? Do they want to weaken the American people? Do they want us too weak to fight?

I was discussing this with my friend and he brought up a good point. He was a bio major, and he said that spirochetes have existed for millions of years, which is true. They've been infecting humans for millions of years, which is also true. They found borrelia evident in that frozen man that was found in the alps with a copper axe.

So why are we making such a big deal about lyme disease? It has always been around. Well, what happened in Connecticut in the late 70s? Why were so many people getting SO sick? This was new. These weren't normal spirochetes. These spirochetes were making people deathly ill. Why? What was different about the spirochetes on Plum island, from the normal spirochetes that have been infecting mankind for millions of years? Why were these particular spirochetes making people SO sick?

My answer was that these spirochetes must have been bred to be more virulent. Bio-Technology in the 40s through the 60s wasn't extremely advanced, but it was advanced enough. The spirochetes were probably selectively bred with other more virulent strains to make a super strain. This could have easily been accomplished. Mankind has been breeding organisms for thousands of years. They wanted to weaponize the spirochete. This is documented. ****s were already studying this during WWII. They were designing bioweapons. That's one of the reasons for recruiting ****s for Operation Paperclip.

Spirochetes were made more virulent on Plum Island. They escaped the island, and infected the general population. That's what we're dealing with today.

Who knows what the CDC is cooking up in their high tech labs these days. One thing we do know is that the "powers that be" want population control. That means they want to reduce the population. While I agree there are too many people on this planet, I do not agree with killing people, like what was done in **** Germany. I also don't agree with releasing massive plagues and epidemics on the general population. Clearly, our government has a different train of thought on this subject. That's what's scary about the CDC and our government.

This is some pretty deep stuff.

I've read that lyme became so prevalent because of the burdens our immune system takes on in the modern era. Never has there been such a time where we are bombarded with so many toxins. It's not just lyme on the rise, but disease in general.

I'm open to many possibilities. But I'll have to update myself with proper research before stating that the modern epidemic is caused by virulently engineered spirochetes by orders of our government. Maybe they are, who knows. Hope not.

It is strange that the CDC still doesn't recognize it.

Here's an oldie but goodie:

The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic: It's Not Autoimmune, You Have Viruses
by R.E. Tent, D.C., N.D., Ph.D.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ahrmjvhggi

“I would urge the forum moderators to curb this kind of counter productive discussion as it is only harmful to us. If this forum is devolving into discussions of conspiracy theories then I'll be throwing in the towel. “

I don’t believe in those conspiracy theories either.
But people are entitled to their opinions.

If this talk was dominating the forum discussions then Id see it as a problem - but it’s not...

These discussions aren’t new to the forum - every now and again they pop up.

It’s been like this since I joined in 2014.

Noah2112 said...
Global conspiracies, chemtrails, vaccines that cause epidemics? This is the reason no one takes anyone with chronic Lyme seriously. There are enormous shortcoming in how our society manages healthcare and these conditions specifically, but it is not some sort of Machiavellian villainous scheme to keep people sick. Ignorance is not the same thing as malice.

We are never going to stop being belittled as insane if we keep spouting absurd theories with no real evidence. There is a right way to go about activism, and this isn't it. This only hurts the community at large. I would urge the forum moderators to curb this kind of counter productive discussion as it is only harmful to us. If this forum is devolving into discussions of conspiracy theories then I'll be throwing in the towel. I thought we were here to share information and to try and help each other get better. If I'm not wrong about that, then this kind of discussion is counter to our goal.

I agree that talking about this stuff publicly only further serves to marginalize lyme patients. So in regards to public relations and tactics surrounding trying to get respect for chronic lyme patients and tick borne diseases, it serves no purpose to bring these issues up in the public realm.

That said, if you look at full scope of evidence in regards to what was happening at Plum Island with ticks and tick borne pathogens and the outbreak that occurred just a few miles away... it is beyond compelling. It also explains the government's absolutely ludicrous and incomprehensible response to these diseases. If you study the evidence and actions you can see there is a cover-up. And I'd say Burgdorfer was a pretty good authority, the interview with him at the end of Bonnie Bennett's book is quite incredible really.

It might seem like bs conspiracy, but not all conspiracies are false. We've overthrown various democratically elected governments, this was conspiracy but it was true. Narrative/history is often controlled by those with power, they are the ones who craft the narratives that become ingrained as truth. Yes, some sneaky people leverage this skepticism towards those in power as a way to Trojan Horse insane ideas in order to manipulate people and serve their crazy agendas... but I'd also remember the fact that our government (US) has been in the bioweapons business for a long time and has in the past sunk to the darkest levels (as mentioned, Tuskegee). It was also work by various organizations and gov groups in the US that inspired the N*zi eugenics movement, so it doesn't beggar belief that our government has and is doing some messed up stuff. And in regards to a potential bioweapon outbreak at Plum Island it has done everything to cover its tracks (liability on this stuff would be insane!). How can one logically explain the lyme outbreak as random, when it occurred just a few miles from Plum Island, a known bioweapons lab that was working with ticks and tick borne pathogens (including borrelia)?

In the end, what's done is done. In my view we should focus our energies on getting these diseases recognized and respected, which will help us get research to develop better diagnostics and better therapies for patients.

Let me remind us all about the origins of the term “conspiracy theory”. It was concocted by social engineers to scoff at anyone who suggests that a real conspiracy could have happened or is currently happening. This is modern day psychological programming for the masses. They preprogram us to avoid asking questions. Perfect example, National Propaganda Radio. They “suggest” ideas to you. Maybe think about this subject like this. Maybe think about that subject like that. Then they have commentators on ferociously arguing for their suggestion. Then they have someone against their suggestion and they gently scoff the person. They perform this recipe over and over, day in and day out until you accept their premise. The best part is you don’t even realize you’ve accepted it. They make you feel as though you came up with the idea yourself!

Trust me. There are such things as conspiracies. They are documented. They do exist and they are much more prevalent then you may think. You just turn a blind eye to them so they don’t label you. I’m fine with being labeled. Call me a conspiracy theorist! I wear it as a badge of honor.

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The Dude Abides said...
Related to gfields comments on social engineering, here is a small example:

Astroturf and Manipulation of Media Messages - Sharyl Attkisson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-byaq-zzteu

Excellent video, Dude. Thanks! Her closing statement that we are dealing with an increasingly "artificial, paid for reality" is right on. Even though I had a sense of that already, her detailed examples were eye opening.

It's time for me to wholly trust God-given instincts and discernment and when something causes those instincts to be aroused and alerted to beware and trust what I discern in the face of what I'm hearing or seeing.

I also took note of her comments about Wikipedia. Guess I need to do some more background checking on that article, LOL!!

We already have to triple question everything we read/hear about Lyme and health matters. It's exhausting enough to do that. Seems it is required for everything nowadays as deception is everywhere and the truth is obscured.

You really have to have a love for the truth in order to find it. God help us all.

Wow. Just watched astroturf on Ted. That's very scary. I think we're all seeing this every day. Reality is no longer reality in the internet age. Truth is no longer truth.

Please share this video. Very important in this day in age.

Many people in our society don't ask questions and are not inquisitive. Clearly, they're going above and beyond to fool the masses.

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This is off topic, but, for those of you who still believe the official story about 9/11, make sure you look into Building 7. The building that collapsed even though a plane did not hit it. Not everyone knows that 3 buildings collapsed on 9/11. Two were hit by planes. One was not.

Post Edited (gfields) : 10/23/2018 6:30:20 PM (GMT-6)

Noah2112 - Believe what you want, but as Faith mentioned, what happened in the past as far as non-lyme US population testing did IN FACT occur.

Non-lyme human testing: The US government even acknowledged it in the 1990's and transcripts from court can be found, I read them once, saved them on a hard drive that broke. The government also acknowledged chem-trail testing in the 1970's. This is public information, not conspiracy. And Tuskegee is obviously true. Sometimes the hard truth is difficult to accept, took me awhile until I saw that much of this has been proven.

Lyme: As far as Plumb island, that has not been proven, so I can see where people might think that's conspiracy. The future will tell.

Noah, that’s fine and We all understand that these topics are upsetting to some, but on some level it’s important to have a healthy level of skepticism in the current societal climate that we live in. If you’re always accepting the official story then often you’re believing twisted truths or in some cases outright lies. It’s important to question and come to your own conclusions. As Jimmy Buffett says - I don’t let other people doing my thinking for me.

Google Building 7, watch how it falls, realize no plane hit it, ask how it fell like that and come to your conclusion. We owe it to the people who died there and their families to at least think about what happened and reach our own conclusions.

Concerning Plum Island, I was under the impression that there are public docs available concerning spirochete research conducted there, but I could be mistaken. It’s been awhile since I researched that topic.

Post Edited (gfields) : 10/24/2018 10:08:55 AM (GMT-6)