May Have Found my Answer! Low Ferritin

interesting. How is one supposed to get it back up? Supplements? Diet Changes?

the ranges vary, but that does seem kinda low. i would definitely explore that.

thats the same thing i am doing, exploring vitamin deficiencies.

NicHostetler said...
I haven't been supplementing at all.. I will be starting Chelated Iron tonight 26mg. How long does it take to get it back up into normal range?

I would give it a month before retesting.

I have used Biocidin LSF since August. Its not clear if its critical, but i have improved greatly since treating lyme/bartonella. i was on so many things at the same time, so not clear what its role is. mino-azith-rifabutin with monolaurin, nutramedix stevia, biocidin LSF.

k07 that's very interesting.

I am also low in iron, it was 26 and then after three months of supplementing it only came up to 49.
I think if you are supplementing, it's important to take the right supplementation (iron with co-factors), but I personally switched to food rich in iron, liver primarily, grass fed beef, eggs, cocoa, spirulina, nettle seed in honey, but also just cooking in cast iron skillet, and there is also an iron fish to cook with in order to increase your iron:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/iron-designed-reusable-pregnant-vegetarians/dp/b01lx5s5fp/ref=sr_1_1_sspa/258-0920783-0392351?ie=utf8&qid=1543933591&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=iron+fish&psc=1

Im, not one for Acronyms, whats TIBC?

General health, especially the deeper side of it, is never off the topic for a lyme forum in my opinion, all part of healing.

Ive been reading a lot about SIBO (another acronym ha ha) lately and came across this:

"Iron deficiency: SIBO can also cause anemia due to an iron deficiency. It is theorized that iron is not absorbed properly due to damage was done by the bacteria present to the villi within the small intestine."

Lost where I got this but any sibo article will mention this.

NicHostetler said...
I met with my doctor again last night.. She is kind of confused because my TIBC is low (241 rage is 250-450) which would indicate that I have too much iron in my blood, but my ferritin is low indicating that I dont have enough in storage so I'm not absorbing it.

I know this maybe is getting away from the topic of Lyme, but I know we have some smart members here that might be able to shed some light on this

could be the genetic thing I mentioned above.

https://www.betterhealthguy.com/episode86
There’s another interview that may go into the iron stuff more. This was his latest one.

"If SIBO could be the cause for my iron deficiency can it also be the reason I am so chronically fatigued? I hope and pray that it's positive so I can maybe solve that issue and maybe that is the missing piece to the puzzle for healing to me.."

" just am not sure if SIBO alone can cause weakness, fatigue, brain fog, dizziness, etc."

"Maybe SIBO is causing me to not absorb nutrients and key vitamins which is why I feel so run down."

Yes , its possibly a contributing possibility on all three. With or without lyme. Sibo also can create leaky gut, so food particles can go past the micro villi vs being absorbed in them - creating fatigue and autoimmune conditions. My autoimmune thyroid improved per feel and lab testing by eliminating certain foods. Not all food leaking out cause issues. So eliminating certain foods is not the complete problem, fixing the gut and sibo is the real issue (make sense?).

Any sibo forum will show this as these symptoms can go away from sibo treatment per the people on these forums.

Eliminating these foods lowers the sibo, but wont eliminate it. Killer herbs and certain abx to kill it. Im not to excited about more abx but I guess it stays in the digestive tract vs lyme abx.

Ive written a lot about food sensitivities (tested for them) and my diet changes. Im recognizing a past pattern of feeling better from certain food eliminations that feed sibo, they are the same as candida foods. The symptoms are a little different though, candida is mid and upper GI, Sibo is lower, in the longer small intestine, it feels different to.

For four months Ive been eating a clean diet of food lab tested for my blood, which further heals leaky gut. (Genova labs showed I had leaky gut). I was doing great with more energy than in 40 years, and my thyroid was peaking meaning a drop in thy med would be needed for the first in 20 years. Then I started eating a lot more fruits that had low cytokin release. Mistake!!!! They still feed bacteria. I was too concerned about cytokine release to think about bacteria anymore! So what appears to be Sibo has come out of the darkness. Its not candida as my symptoms of that mamny times are a little different. My energy is a little lower in the last week too.

another bump in the road

"I did IV and didn't notice any difference. I've recently been working with Bob Miller (genetics) and he says to be very careful with iron. You can have some genetic variations that look like you are low in iron but it is really just getting stuck in your cells. Supplementing can make you worse."

k07, this is what I was going to say. I've heard the connection between the iron getting stuck in your cells. That's the whole reason I haven't supplemented with iron even though mine has been low.

How long have you been working with Bob? I plan to see him probably in March. I'd be interested in hearing your experience with him.

K07, did you use their genetics test, or did you already have a 23 and me? Is it worth using their test if my 23 and me is not the older version?