Fixing your liver

I've posted this before but I'll try again. Does anyone just have undiagnosed liver problems for unknown reasons? I eat so healthy but have high cholesterol, high estrogen, high enzymes. I can NOT do anything more diet wise. I don't have sugar or carbs for the vast majority of the time. I eat protein and fat mostly. No processed. Only a few bites of chocolate now and then. Lots of food intolerances too. And I gain weight at the drop of a hat. Especially if I can't digest the food which applies to most food nowadays (even meat).

The doctor has no suggestions and the LLMD just gave me a Liver GI Detox supplement. Supplements are not enough in my experience. I'm doing daily coffee enemas which she said not to do daily but I don't have anything else in my arsenal that is strong enough to tackle this. I really don't know what's wrong or if something is causing the liver to act up or what. Sorry to post this again. I'm just really frustrated.

For a few months when I was taking abx for Lyme (not bart or Babesia treatment) my liver enzymes climbed for a few months.
My LLND had me stop abx and take Pekana Apo-hepat (for liver detox) and within a few months they normalized.

I then went back on abx for Bartonella - and my liver enzymes have been fine ever since - and one of the abx I was taking - Rifampin.
I continued to take the APo-hepat for another year.
The only reason I stopped is because I don’t see that LLND anymore and he would sell it to me.
It’s not sold on Amazon or any stores - so you have to place an order just for it on one website .

So far my liver has been behaving ..

I don’t have much help to offer. Just wanted to chime in that I worry about my liver and kidneys a lot, but the doctors never seem concerned.

My AST/ALT have only been higher than normal range once. When last tested in April, they were 18 and 20, so good and back where they used to be. Bilirubin and alkaline phosphatase are normal. The latter is at the low end of normal. I don’t trust those standard labs, though, and don’t think they tell the whole story.

Non-alcoholic liver disease is in my family, so it’s a concern for me. Couple that with the fact that I am a terrible detoxer, and the writing is on the wall, IMO, but no doctor is concerned.

I like what auzzie said and would very much like to see someone who does bioresonance, but I don’t want to waste money on someone who’s not really good. I was just thinking this morning about possibly seeing a TCM practitioner just to see what they identify as my weakest organs.

I should add, too, that my kidney labs are low - BUN, creatinine, chloride. Albumin/globulin ratio was high. ADH and osmolality are both low, which has an effect on hydration. Saw PCP yesterday. He said the kidney labs reflect over-hydration. I worry they may reflect liver disease, but docs insist it doesn’t since liver labs are fine.

I’v never done a liver cleanse. I fear it. I have used topical castor oil on the liver, and at times it made me pretty sick - nausea and maybe vomiting. My gut is not good. I have constipation and require high dose magnesium citrate (Natural Calm). Stuff that hits the digestive organs hard can make me feel putrid and turn green. That alone probably shows I sick organs.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 12/4/2018 5:59:50 AM (GMT-7)

Out of the supplements I take that are meant to help the liver with detoxification:

1) NAC - precursor to Glutathione
2) Liposomal Glutathione - Glutathione is something your liver naturally produces to detoxify, but impaired patients might not produce enough of it

I don't think I've ever had my ALT, AST tested. Is that something you can test?

I've taken milk thisltle for detox. I think it does do something. I notice I feel sick when I take it, and my pee is especially stinky the next day. I think it's releasing gunk caught up in the liver. I think I've read that spirochetes get stuck in the liver.

gfields said...
I suspect that I may have liver and kidney problems because my urine has had a strong odor for at least a year. I have had tests from my doctor and they keep telling me everything is fine. Bilirubin and all that. I wonder if these standard tests are good indicators for liver cirrhosis. I'm skeptical. I've heard about liver enzymes, but I'm not sure if standard liver tests are testing for these. Is bilirubin an enzyme? I'm not sure.

I don’t think bilirubin is an enzyme but it is a liver function test.

Along with ALT, AST and ALP

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jb1994 said...
Hi Dude, I do not eat too much fat, only about 1.5 tablespoons max a day which is probably actually not enough. But I subsist off fish. I have tried reintroducing salads to some success but I posted in a new thread how my food intolerances are really becoming unmanageable and I don't know if they're related. I take Betaine HCL/Pepsin before every meal and have done the test where you take it and see how much burns. I only need one capsule it seems. But I know I have low stomach acid because I react very poorly to vinegar which I guess neutralizes the little acid I have left in there. I tested for H.Pylori and do not have it which I guess is some relief since it's one less ting to deal with but it leaves me without an answer. My primary care ran blood tests and prescribed an ultrasound but the ultrasound came up normal as well.

vinegar is acidic so if you are vinegar intolerant you likely are acid high, not acid low

I definitely have low stomach acid. I don't know anything about vinegar being acidic, as far as I know it is literally a base, so...

Candida probably not since i have no carbs. SIBO I've been treated for. I don't know. I have D-limonene down, I will bring that up at my next appointment. The foods list I can tolerate now is much easier to remember than the list I can't.

Bad estrogen clearance is a liver problem. I have not gained enough weight to warrant high estrogen. I am familiar with aromatization and fat tissue. That's not it.

I have slightly elevated liver enzymes but the doctor isn't concerned about them. But that along with poor estrogen clearance, high beta glucuronidase, and food intolerances all denote a poorly functioning liver.

I don't take antibiotics.

jb1994 said...
Bad estrogen clearance is a liver problem. I have not gained enough weight to warrant high estrogen. I am familiar with aromatization and fat tissue. That's not it.
. . . . . I don't take antibiotics.

Same here. I’m sure I must have bad estrogen clearance based on symptoms. Is there a test for this? My AST/ALT have always been normal except slightly above range once and normal when rechecked. I’m not fat and no significant weight gain. No abx here, either.

jb1994 said...
Walkingbyfaith, I took the saliva hormone panel which included cortisol and testosterone as well. My enzymes are also slightly above range (still below 100) but my estrogen was literally uncharitable it was so high. It makes no sense, you'd think with that high hormones there'd be an obvious answer. The only obvious answer to me is my liver.

I see. I have only had blood tests for hormones, but all mine were low. My symptoms are greatly exacerbated when I have hormone fluctuations, though, and I always had significant PMS symptoms.

Estrogen is metabolized by CYP3A4 and other liver enzymes. So yes, liver function can affect that.