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Posted 12/15/2018 11:08 AM (GMT -5)
Ive not tried one of these new compact "smoothie" mixers under $40 ($25 at walmart). Do they still work well with only one speed? My multi speed blender bit the dust and they cost a lot.

Im going to try making celery juice on a regular basis for a while. Celery will get chunky, so Illl prob have to strain it. One stalk makes 16 OZ I read.

My giant food processor is such a huge pain in the arse. Its a hassle to get out, use and then cleaning it - I only use it in the summer and rinse outside in the yard with the hose. I hate this thing, takes way to much time.

Post Edited (astroman) : 12/15/2018 9:27:15 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/15/2018 11:39 AM (GMT -5)
Well I answered my own question. Nothing is easy lol.

A smoothy from blending has different nutritional value than juicing from a food processor that separates juice from the bigger particles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t3qjecsbvs

My take is a blender and smoothie mixer are similar and have less nutritional than what I call a food processor that separates pulp from juice. The difference is the oxidation from the high speed of a blender and smoothie mixer vs lower speed of a food processor (more healthy as tested in this video).

Yet the medical medium guy himself shows both ways without tell the nutritional end result difference.:
http://www.medicalmedium.com/blog/celery-juice-101

Post Edited (astroman) : 12/15/2018 10:16:28 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/15/2018 2:33 PM (GMT -5)
I would think that blending - and eating the whole celery not just the juice would be healthier than juicing.
The fiber is part of the package that is removed when juicing.
Posted 12/15/2018 2:53 PM (GMT -5)
Slow speed is best:

https://www.celeryjuice.com/

Post Edited (astroman) : 12/15/2018 12:56:53 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/15/2018 2:55 PM (GMT -5)

Girlie said...
I would think that blending - and eating the whole celery not just the juice would be healthier than juicing.
The fiber is part of the package that is removed when juicing.

Thats what I thought and said on the celery thread. Till I read more about it. Can you eat a whole tripple stalk bag of celery a day? hard to. Can juice it though.
Posted 12/15/2018 3:52 PM (GMT -5)
Astro: Dr. Greger has some videos on his website and YouTube channel (NutritionFacts.org), if you search for "juicing," "blending," and "smoothie." He talks about the effects each has on fiber and blood sugar.

That said, I think each method had benefits and drawbacks. If the nutrition is supposedly less using one method, a possible way to combat that is to have an additional serving. But, again, it depends - if someone has blood sugar issues, perhaps that's not advisable. It also depends on what one is juicing.

Eating is usually preferable, due to the slow rate of ingestion and the effects on fiber and how it feeds our gut bacteria. However, again, there are times when blending or juicing are employed strategically for a specific reason.

Like everything, it depends...

I will say that my NutriBullet died after a year. Before it expired, it started leaking. I thought it was crap. I bought a refurbished Vitamix for a couple of hundred bucks, a few years ago, and it's a great machine. I also have an Omega 8003 low-speed, single-gear masticating juicer I bought over 10 years ago that still works great. I highly recommend it. I think they also sell refurbished units.

First, though, I suggest looking into those Dr. Greger videos.
Posted 12/15/2018 4:20 PM (GMT -5)
I should add I'll only be juicing celery and veggies.

Fruit smoothies are just bad, way to much sugar for one "hit", not naturally normal at all. Many are all one smoothie away from full diabetes.

The whole "natural sugar" fad is insane, its still sugar. Look at the diabetic epidemic on some south Pacific islanders. Its one area / "tribe" thats taking it harder than the others. They OD on real sugar from fruits on their islands..

NutriBullet crossed off the list.

thanks for the vids...tonight's movie
Posted 12/15/2018 4:32 PM (GMT -5)

astroman said...

Girlie said...
I would think that blending - and eating the whole celery not just the juice would be healthier than juicing.
The fiber is part of the package that is removed when juicing.

Thats what I thought and said on the celery thread. Till I read more about it. Can you eat a whole tripple stalk bag of celery a day? hard to. Can juice it though.


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Nope....I can't.....
Posted 12/15/2018 6:10 PM (GMT -5)
I used several blenders for smoothies. My 25 year old basic Hamilton Beach, one of those Ninja things, and a Vitamix. The Ninja was no better than my old blender, so I returned it. The Vitamix works. If I ever get a home, I plan to buy a refurbished Vitamix. The refurbished ones are good and worth the money.

Now is the time to shop. Look online and see what Vitamix deals you can find.
Posted 12/15/2018 8:04 PM (GMT -5)
Holy cow........a new Vitamix pro is $550. Top of the line, so I'm guessing it works pretty good for that price.

I kinda like the homemade hillbilly chainsaw motor blenders; not recommended for indoor use though.
Posted 12/15/2018 8:31 PM (GMT -5)
I held out for years thinking there’s no way a Vitamix was worth the price. At Costco about 5 years ago there was a live Vitamix demo and I think it included a special of $100 off. It has run perfectly and we use it almost daily. I think it’s worth it if you can find a discount or refurbished model. If Kohl’s sells them, they have good appliance discounts.
Posted 12/16/2018 12:12 AM (GMT -5)

astroman said...
Holy cow........a new Vitamix pro is $550. Top of the line, so I'm guessing it works pretty good for that price.

I kinda like the homemade hillbilly chainsaw motor blenders; not recommended for indoor use though.

"...homemade hillbilly chainsaw motor blenders; not recommended for indoor use..."

hahaha - I laughed aloud at that one!

Another place to look for a Vitamix blender is eBay. I just found a "Vitamix S50 10-Speed Blender" for $185 plus $16.50 shipping. There are a variety of Vitamix models and some are new, some are refurbished, and some are just used that may or may not have any remaining warranty.

I can only speak for my Vitamix blender and my experience, but this thing is pretty amazing. The only downside is possibly going deaf, since it sounds like a General Electric GE90 high-bypass turbofan aircraft engine.

Okay, maybe that's a slight exaggeration, but I do wear my Sony earbuds, when using the blender. No music...just the earbuds. The blender is pretty loud and the repeated exposure to that dB level can't be good. At the time I bought mine, I had an option to buy a newer model (also refurbished) that was purported to be 30% quieter, for an extra $100, but I decided against it. Now, I kinda wish I'd bought it. C'est la vie.

Before buying mine, I looked into Blendtec blenders, too. But the Vitamix seemed to have the best reviews, service, and support. I was lucky in buying my refurbished unit, because it was being demonstrated at Whole Foods Market -- where a friend of mine works. She was able to get an additional discount off the refurbished price (it was either 20% or 30% additional savings), so I gave her cash ahead of time and she bought it for me.

You may have already seen it, but I just noticed the Vitamix website has a special on certified reconditioned blenders:

https://www.vitamix.com/us/en_us/shop/certified-reconditioned-series

There's also some on their Amazon.com store:

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/2782eec4-41e4-4e1a-ba2b-a64468190418
Posted 12/20/2018 6:59 PM (GMT -5)
Was just at Costco and they have a Vitamix on sale for $279. I think the tag said $75 off. Model was E320 Explorian. Still not cheap by any means and it was absolutely nuts there so proceed with caution. I've been using a refurb Vitamix for couple years, love it, and its been trouble free so far.
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