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Posted 1/25/2019 8:22 AM (GMT -5)
Hi Everyone, I want to try the Chronic Fatigue formula mentioned in Stephen Buhner's book. I notice it has Astragalus listed as one of the ingredients. I am curious as to why he put that in there if contradicted in most cases of Lyme. Dose Anyone know anything about this? So I am wondering if I should just leave it out? or if I should try it?
Posted 1/25/2019 8:43 AM (GMT -5)
Astragalus in chronic lyme can cause too severe of a herx, so he advises to not use it. I have been taking it regularly for the past 3 years or so. I first tried it as a challenge test to check my active Lyme load when I hit 85% or so healed. I had no reaction, so I continued at 1000 mg per day as a preventative therapy in case of a new tick bite. about a year or so later I did find an attached tick and up the dosage to 3000 mg per day for 30 days. The tick tested negative for Lyme and other co's., I had no EM rash, or any increased sx, I still take 1000 mg per day even thru the coldest of winter.

I'ts up to you to give it a try. Start slowly.
Posted 1/25/2019 1:03 PM (GMT -5)
Buhner says Astragalus is good in acute infections...but with chronic - it could cause a kind of autoimmune response:

"If you are not currently sick, you can certainly take astragalus. The reason for not recommending it is that astragalus raises the parts of the immune system that are overactivated in chronic lyme. Those parts of the immune system are highly effective against lyme early on and help prevent or reduce the disease but if they are low to begin with and you are infected the infection can spread more easily. After awhile the immune system does ratchet up those parts to attack the lyme bacteria but by then the spirochete has altered itself and is no longer very affected by them, those parts of the immune system then begin to cause some of the lyme symptoms people have making the disease a kind of autoimmune problem"
Posted 1/25/2019 4:28 PM (GMT -5)
Hi when I was sicker I could not take Astragalus. It made me more sick. However now that I am feeling better after 18+ months treatment, it works very well.

went from sick, can't get out of bed
to treatment, abx -> 6-9 months
ivermectin+abc 4-6 months
herbs sometimes ivermectin/abc last 3-4 months
now the last month I have been taking things that before would knock me back in bed. Astragalus would knock back in bed. Also Vitamin D, C, B -- I can now take where as before they made me sicker. I am taking all of these everyday with Clove+Oil of Oregano+Teasel Garlic, Cinnamon, and a bunch of other herbs and vitamins.

I have to take salt (1/4 tea spoon) every other day otherwise I feel like crap.

I think Astragalus works pretty well I have been feeling great.
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