How Do I Decrease Oxidative Stress related to yeast die off and metals released?

I started treatment with Fluconazole about 6 weeks ago. Also started nigella sativa oil and then seeds in the weeks after starting Fluconazole.

My cognitive functioning has gotten progressively worse in the last few weeks. When my doc Rx Fluconazole, she also wanted me to take chlorella. I did take a small amount - 3 tablets 2x day. As my cognitive function got worse, I got worried that the chlorella was the cause (think Cutler). All amalgams have been out over a year now.

Anyway, I stopped chlorella. Cognitive seemed to improve a little for about a week and then got worse again, so maybe it wasn’t the chlorella.

Georgia Hunter stated this to me on another post:

“The cognitive decline is from a decrease in detox pathways. Those yeast bind metals that are released when they die and you need more antioxidants to bind the free radicals. You need to decrease oxidative stress. I am not the best person to tell you how to do that but some on this forum are pretty good at it.”

Help. I need my brain.
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For what it’s worth, I have also been taking 3 supplements with quercetin in them, B vitamins, selenium, Viit E, molybdenum, buffered Vit C (3g 2x day), zinc, copper. I already have been on lipo glutathione, NAC, fish oil, milk thistle daily long term. I added SPM Active when the MCAS got bad but backed off some in the last week b/c it’s super expensive. It’s much more potent than fish oil as an anti-inflammatory.

Still can’t do epsom salt baths b/c of the moldy house situation. No sauna.

Binders include activated charcoal and Zeobind.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 9/10/2019 5:19:54 AM (GMT-6)

FWIW: When I am dealing with yeast die-off I take plenty of molybdenum. I have taken as much as 1000mcg per day with good result. I take 500-750 every day because I have MCS with a severe sensitivity to aldehydes.
Mo is a cofactor in the production of an enzyme necessary for the breakdown of aldehydes, which are plentiful in our environment with sources too numerous to list. Yeast and fungal die-off release aldehydes as well. I don't know how much you are taking, but possibly you can increase your dose.

Yes, Cutler recommended avoidance of chlorella. It can be a source of heavy metals and make heavy metal toxicity worse for other reasons as well. Prior to discovering Cutler, it is something I tried with a very bad result.

Antioxidants I use: A-20,000iu, E-800iu, Selenium-200mcg (also helps to bind some mercury to prevent some of the damage Hg does), milk thistle-500-750mg, CoQ, Resveratrol (from j. knot), C-6GM, Tocotrienols.

Can you do an Epsom Salt foot soak? I don't know where you live, but is it warm enough to go sit outside and do a foot soak? I never did well with the baths, but the foot soaks worked great both indoors and outside sitting in a lawn chair.

WalkingbyFaith said...
I started treatment with Fluconazole about 6 weeks ago. Also started nigella sativa oil and then seeds in the weeks after starting Fluconazole.

My cognitive functioning has gotten progressively worse in the last few weeks. When my doc Rx Fluconazole, she also wanted me to take chlorella. I did take a small amount - 3 tablets 2x day. As my cognitive function got worse, I got worried that the chlorella was the cause (think Cutler). All amalgams have been out over a year now.

Anyway, I stopped chlorella. Cognitive seemed to improve a little for about a week and then got worse again, so maybe it wasn’t the chlorella.

Georgia Hunter stated this to me on another post:

“The cognitive decline is from a decrease in detox pathways. Those yeast bind metals that are released when they die and you need more antioxidants to bind the free radicals. You need to decrease oxidative stress. I am not the best person to tell you how to do that but some on this forum are pretty good at it.”

Help. I need my brain.
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For what it’s worth, I have also been taking 3 supplements with quercetin in them, B vitamins, selenium, Viit E, molybdenum, buffered Vit C (3g 2x day), zinc, copper. I already have been on lipo glutathione, NAC, fish oil, milk thistle daily long term. I added SPM Active when the MCAS got bad but backed off some in the last week b/c it’s super expensive. It’s much more potent than fish oil as an anti-inflammatory.

Still can’t do epsom salt baths b/c of the moldy house situation. No sauna.

Binders include activated charcoal and Zeobind.

May I suggest you drop the copper, zinc, and the Selenium you can be toxic from selium and copper and zinc believe it or not. Google selenium toxicity. And those metals u do not need because the bugs use them against you in biofilms and the yeast. Take some zinc maybe 2 times a month only because it helps colds and stuff. U get more than enough from foods. When my head gets pressure etc I have to stop for a day or three to clear it because my pots really acts up when the toxins build in brain.

WBF, did you ever get around to trying CSM again?
I can't think of any other answer but good old healthy food, berries, fresh veg, herbal teas etc.

I have moved and since have been doing much better. Really removal is the single most important thing, nothing else has such an impact. Last month I went to a sunny southern (dry) place, and the house I stayed in is beautiful all in wood - and had black mold all around sink, bath tub, kitchen sink... So I guess I got reexposed and my urinary frequency was back, slight mcas, eye pain, pain in cartilage in my chest as if it's going to snap... CSM didn't help much but it looks like charcoal is helping, I should repeat the mycotoxin test. Hopefully it resolves..

Chitosan is derived from shellfish, so if you’re allergic to shellfish don’t use this.

I wrote a response a number of days ago, but for whatever reason it never showed.
I will try again. See***below:

WalkingbyFaith said...
Gladioli66,

Thank you for that detailed response. Very helpful. The molybdenum I bought was very low dose -150mcg I think. I was taking one tablet in the morning. about a week ago, I increased to 2 tablets in am and 1 in pm. After reading your post, I am going to increase again.

I also have MCS and have long wondered about aldehydes. Fragrance is the worst problem for me. That and mold. I think fragrance must have aldehydes in it. Do you react to fragrance?

***I react horribly to fragrances and many other things. Many if not most synthetic fragrances are aldehyde based. Yeast die off and alcohol consumption/breakdown release aldehydes. Sizing agents in almost all fabrics are aldehyde based. (which is why you wash new clothes before wearing) Our environment if full of aldehydes and almost impossible to avoid completely.

How do you know you are sensitive specifically to aldehydes? Is there a test for it?
***Don't really need a test. It is quite clear it's a problem.

As for the chlorella, I only took a small dose - 3 tablets 2x day. Do you think it’s harmful at such a small dose? I would like to use it for nutritional benefits. My doc thinks it’s good for detoxing metals. I told her about Cutler and my concerns, but she apparently hasn’t seen harm in her clinical practice.

***I will not contradict what your doc has said, but I will never be taking chlorella for anything for a number of reasons. If you have heavy metal toxicity I would join the Frequent Dose Chelation Group on Yahoo to explore appropriate ways to lessen your heavy metal load. Also, that group can give you valuable info. on appropriate mineral supplementation for those that have heavy metals. Functional selenium deficiencies are common among those with mercury because selenium binds tightly to mercury lessening it's ability to cause damage, but that leaves none for bodily processes such as being a cofactor in converting T4 to T3 as well as it's part in the production of the various types of peroxidases in the body. We take more Zinc because zinc receptors sites can be blocked by HMs, but don't take copper or manganese unless there is a proven deficiency. For more info.:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/frequent-dose-chelation/info
You would be welcome and can ask all the question you wish. I don't know if you have had a Doctor's Data Hair Elements test done, but something to consider if pursuing a heavy metal diagnosis



Thanks for suggesting a foot soak. I fleetingly thought of it, but not long enough to actually do it, LOL!!! I started out with foot soaks before I did baths. Good thing I did. I got sick one time even from a foot soak from leaning down and putting my hands in to soak.