Jernigan Protocol

Just ordered Borrelogen and am really excited for it to come in. Hoping it will knock out my remaining symptoms:

Extreme Fatigue
Brain fog
Dizziness
POTS
Headaches
Neck/shoulder pain
Stomach Issues
Tingling Sensations

I'll use this thread to update everyone on my progress.

I've been sick for 3 years and have been through 1.5 years of antibiotics so it's hard to have hope in one tincture, but I figure it's worth a shot.

Charlie55 -

I appreciate your feedback.

I read that it treats babseia here:
http://lymebook.com/david-jernigan-treatment-of-lyme-disease

Do you think my symptoms could be ammonia related at all and that I should give l-ornithine and l-aspartate a try?

NicHostetler said...
Do you think my symptoms could be ammonia related at all and that I should give l-ornithine and l-aspartate a try?

My personal feeling is your brain fog is related to babesia the parasitic infection itself, not necessarily ammonia, but I could be wrong.

From my experience Anxiety/OCD/IntrusiveThoughts/Paranoia are more from head ammonia, which tends to be Bartonella and Borrelia die off. Could very well be ammonia from SIBO too, as reported by this doctor here
https://youtu.be/iidbc0kdszk?t=182

But usually when lyme patients start having high ammonia issues, they have it in their urine, sweat, taste back of their throat. Do you have that?

However, after reading some of the reviews about the Allergy Research l-ornithine l-aspartate, some Lyme Patients did report it helping with their brain fog, so it may still help you.

Somebody said...

Works great for me. I must have had amonia due to Lyme, and when I get foggy/pressure sensation, this clears it. I mix it in with Calm magnesium in a hot drink with sea salt. I'd be on disability without it.

Somebody said...
Great for when your head feels foggy. Counter ammonia in the brain, for those with MTHFR gene variations that lead to low levels of cellular detox.

Only way to know is to try the supplement out...

And I honestly suspect all lyme patients have somewhat higher ammonia levels compared to normal healthy people. It just may be the fact that when many are dealing with babesia, that the ammonia levels aren't that high, once they knock babesia back, they flare up due to bartonella and borrelia...

It's hard to say... As everyone seems to have different experiences...

And just so you know, BulkSupplements has it for $15 for 100 grams on Amazon, same size of Allergy Researche's bottle. They even have 250grams for $20, which seems the best buy.

And there's also DPS Nutrition for $17.

http://www.dpsnutrition.net/i/25356/serious-nutrition-solutions-l-ornithine-l-aspartate-powder-100-grams.htm?sc=googlebase&k=sn126&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=datafeed&utm_campaign=sn126&gclid=eaiaiqobchmi4sbns5l45aiv0cdach3zuaideaqyaiabeglid_d_bwe

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 9/30/2019 11:59:42 AM (GMT-6)

I hit babesia for a solid year with herbs (CSA) and mepron (I know you said it can be resistant).

It actually didn't improve any of those symptoms with that.. The only antibiotic that seemed to help with anything was Biaxin. Every time I was on that my symptoms seemed to improve after a few weeks.

I have tried alinia for 20 days, not sure if that was enough but it didnt help at all.

Also have done an SIBO test and it was negative.

NicHostetler said...
I hit babesia for a solid year with herbs (CSA) and mepron (I know you said it can be resistant).

It actually didn't improve any of those symptoms with that.. The only antibiotic that seemed to help with anything was Biaxin. Every time I was on that my symptoms seemed to improve after a few weeks.

I have tried alinia for 20 days, not sure if that was enough but it didnt help at all.

Also have done an SIBO test and it was negative.

Sorry if you've mentioned it already - did you treat bartonella? ie with Rifampin or Rifabutin?

Extreme Fatigue
Brain fog
Dizziness
POTS
Headaches
Neck/shoulder pain
Stomach Issues
Tingling Sensations

The brain fog, POTS, neck/shoulder pain, dizziness, tingling sensations - I have/had those...and my dominant infection is bartonella.

JovaLyme said...
This is a worry.

My symptoms are the same as Nic's. Mainly neuro and head, but with a lot of body and joint pain too.

I'm praying I don't have bartonella, as it seems to be the worst of the bunch to try and get rid of.

It's interesting because a few years ago...Babesia was considered the 'bad' guy in the group.

It could depend on the person...ie for me...I've most likely had bartonella for a very long time...I had many cat bites, scratches as a young girl. And I think it was smoldering for a very long time...I did lead a healthy, athletic life...but there were a few 'anomalies' that I now look back on and wonder......

I don't think it's always the case that people get stuck on bart.....

Hi Jova,

The Neuro-Antitox takes time to work. I think it's been about a week right? Please correct me if I am wrong. Patience is key. Hey, when I took Doxy for 3 months or more I kept saying to myself (let it work and let it stay in my stomach ~ because I couldn't keep it down). It made me so sick to my stomach even though I was taking it with the right food.

I didn't feel relief from the Neuro-Antitox right away. The remedy was busy doing it's job and it takes time to clear out the ammonia and heavy metals: From the website (last paragraph first so you can read this):

"Each of these ingredients, however, is expected to mobilize various heavy metals from virtually any tissue in the body. There is the chance that these metals may become lodged in a more sensitive tissue than the tissue from which they came, causing new symptoms. This is true in any form of detoxification. New symptoms or a worsening of existing symptoms should be followed up with your health care professional and is usually remedied by increasing toxin releasing therapies, like Infra-Red Saunas, Ion-Cleanse foot baths, ST-8s."

Ingredients: Silphium laciniatum (entire plant), Salvia azurea (entire plant), Homeo-energetic potencies**

**Propietary frequencies to increase primary activity in the central and peripheral nervous systems

Neuro-Antitox II CNS/PNS is for those suffering primarily from problems in the brain, meninges, and peripheral nerves from Lyme toxins and heavy metals. Indications include, but are not limited to – cognitive disturbances, dizziness, and vertigo, disturbances in vision, neuritis, neuralgia, numbness, palsies, and headaches.

Ingredients: Silphium, Salvia Azurea, sarco-bioenergetic potencies in P6, 12, and 30 of cerebrospinal fluid, dura mater, cerebellum, optic nerve, substantia nigra, cerebral cortex, cranial nerve VIII (vestibulocochlear n.), myelencephalon, temporal lobe, occipital lobe, quadrigeminal plate, lumbar plexus, brachial plexus, periodontium.

Dr. Steve Harris, MD, author of “Insights to Lyme Disease Treatments” uses and promotes the Neuro-Antitox II™ formulas

about the Ingredients:

Silphium breaks down neurotoxins, histamine, inflammation, and works great as a analgesic (pain reliever)

Recent Usage: (Silphium laciniatum) has been shown through clinical research to be possibly the greatest anti-neurotoxin substance found to date. Silphium is thought to break down and/or bind microbial neurotoxins. Clinical research reveals that Silphium may also bind heavy metals, and breakdown isopropyl alcohol, and benzene accumulations, adding to its phenomenal arsenal of beneficial effects. Silphium is recommended to limit herxheimer reactions during any type of antibiotic, or antimicrobial treatments.

Our testing using, Bio-Resonance Scanning, has revealed the Neuro-Antitox II formula’s to be beneficial in addressing the accumulation of ammonia in the brain tissue from the Borrelia burgdorferi production of urease enzyme!

Salvia Azurea, Blue Sage: Salvia helps the body improve mental concentration, attention-span and quicken the senses. Salvia has a very rich source of several B-complex groups of vitamins, such as folic acid, thiamine, pyridoxine and riboflavin many times higher than the recommended daily levels. It contains good amounts of vitamin-A and beta-carotene levels, the antioxidant vitamin, vitamin-C, and it is a rich source of minerals such as potassium, zinc, calcium, iron, manganese, copper, and magnesium. Potassium is an important component of cell and body fluids, which help control heart rate and blood pressure. Manganese is used by the body as a co-factor for the antioxidant enzyme, superoxide di****ase.

Expectations of Improvement for Neuro-Antitox II formulas: Although every person is unique, it is not uncommon to experience an improvement in symptoms within the first 48-72 hours of starting the Neuro-Antitox formulas.

Test the validity of the Neuro-Antitox II formulas by using the VCS test

One of the best tools for judging improvement is the VCS or Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test. This test demonstrates the presence and interference of neuro-toxins or bio-toxins in the brain. This test lets you know if the Neuro-Antitox is working, so you do not have to rely on what the patient tells you.

Dramatic improvement has been documented using this test in as little as one week and on occasion as much as a month to demonstrate improvement in re-testing.

How the VCS Test Works (from Dr. Showmaker’s website)

https://www.vcstest.com/

“The visual system includes a complex neurological network that involves the retina, optic nerve, brain nuclei and the visual cortex. One of the main outputs of the visual system is pattern vision. The VCS test is an indicator of ability to detect visual patterns. The test measures the least amount of contrast between light and dark bars (sinusoidal grating) that is needed for the viewer to detect the bars. VCS is measured at five different bar sizes (spatial frequencies) because the perception of different bar sizes is mediated by different physiological components, and these components are differentially susceptible to effects from different toxic substances (10-17). The largest effects of biotoxins are at the mid-size bars (1-8). To measure VCS, viewers have presented a series of bar patterns at each of the five bar sizes. Viewers respond by indicating that the bars are tilted to the left, tilted to the right, are straight up and down, or that they cannot see any bars. The pattern with the lowest contrast that is correctly identified is the measure of VCS for that bar size. Upon completing the VCS test, viewers receive a message indicating that biotoxins are (positive) or are not (negative) likely to be involved in their illness.”

Toxicity: According to the criteria set forth by the FDA, all of the ingredients in the Neuro-Antitox II Formulas™ are considered so non-toxic that no LD50 is required, much in the same way as any plant/vegetable. Side-effects: No direct side-effects have been reported in the literature for any of these ingredients.

Each of these ingredients, however, is expected to mobilize various heavy metals from virtually any tissue in the body. There is the chance that these metals may become lodged in a more sensitive tissue than the tissue from which they came, causing new symptoms. This is true in any form of detoxification. New symptoms or a worsening of existing symptoms should be followed up with your health care professional and is usually remedied by increasing toxin releasing therapies, like Infra-Red Saunas, Ion-Cleanse foot baths, ST-8s.

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Also, I don't suggest taking all the remedies at the same time. Take either the Lymogen or the Borrelogen with the Neuro-Antitox Formula. Wait a month or 2 and see how you feel. Then you can take it from there. Keep it simple is my motto.

Hope this helps,
Denise

I started the lymogen and antitox yesterday... so far so good... lets all keep each other posted on our progress

physedgirl09 said...
I started the lymogen and antitox yesterday... so far so good... lets all keep each other posted on our progress

How have you been?

I actually ordered a bottle of Lymogen so I can start that before I do the Borrelogen just because I really think Bartonella is my dominant infection.

I hoping it comes saturday so I can get started this weekend.