Finally had a LLMD appointment

Hi, Woodduck!

What you have going on (MCAS, mold, Bartonella) is all covered in the book Toxic by Neil Nathan, and he offers a somewhat different set of recommendations. (Might be worth checking the book out if you have not already. I found it immensely helpful.) He also encourages going extremely slowly and avoiding herxing and other kinds of destabilization if possible.

Are you planning to take anything else in addition to the drugs mentioned - probiotics, binders, etc.? No need to use a protocol that you don't feel comfortable with when there are alternatives! Knowing how different each case is, most LLMDs are pretty flexible if there's an aspect of the protocol you don't want to try - maybe just bring up your concerns with your doctor?

I definitely understand about not wanting to have tests done right now because of COVID. I'm sure any LLMD would want lots of testing done, which makes sense, but will your doctor not start treating you until after testing? Or are you going ahead with the aforementioned protocol regardless?

Are you still being exposed to mold?

I hope you feel good about your appointment and that the path you are on yields progress for you!

I asked if I should continue to use buhner herbs. She said as of now that would be fine. Right now Activated Charcoal and a probiotic. It seems like she is more concerned with histamines, mold, and then addressing bart. . She did tell me to purchase the book. I have been exposed to mold for years and she wanted me to get my home tested. I like her and she is confident she can help me out. Can histamines cause psychological problems? Is clairithomycin realtvly safe. Im worried about abx and mental herxing. I am a new father so my family needs me. Also, My dr. did say we will be visiting cholystryomine down the road for a binder,

Baby twins - Congratulations, Woodduck!! So happy for you.😊

Thanks! It is wonderful and at the same time it is frustrating because im not as mentally present as I would like to be. Did anyone have experiences taking multiple histamines? anything I should be aware of. Can years of mold exposure take years to get out of you? The last month and a have I had scary rage that has been getting more controllable. I hope taking the antihistimen help with this.

If a person is highly reactive because of MCAS and mold, then treating Bartonella could be intolerably destabilizing. Some doctors recommend stabilizing MCAS before doing any antimicrobial treatment.

Yes, it can take years to get rid of mycotoxins that are in your body, but there are ways to speed it along somewhat - liver support, kidney support, sauna, binders, etc.

MCAS can cause psych symptoms - usually brain fog and anxiety. Mycotoxins can cause all kinds of psych symptoms, potentially severely.

Thanks for being patient with me. I just got a bag full of scripts at the pharmacy today. I have been having anxiety all day weighing the risk with the benefits. I read the possible side effects of the rx list and I tell you that every other drug has the risk of fatal heart arryithiamas, liver problems, and psych symptoms. have an ekg about a month ago because of pain in my chest two month ago and everything was fine. I didn't know that anti histamine can cause a bunch of side effects. Is it a high risk high reward type deal with pharma or are these just a few isolated incidents. The thought of taking these drugs give me anxiety so I have put them off a day till I work up the courage. I also think andrographs is causing my rage and increased nueorapthy. I missed my moring dose and after I have taken my other two doses later in the day my nueropathy went up.