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Posted 5/5/2020 10:44 PM (GMT -5)
Are long term use of buhners herbs safe? I have been taking JK , Houtt, CSA. For sometime now. A few like andrographs are used for maybe a couple of months and stopped.
Posted 5/6/2020 12:13 AM (GMT -5)
From what I’ve read - yes they are fine long term -
Posted 5/6/2020 5:30 PM (GMT -5)
Woodduck - I would say to do your own research on each herb because each has different compounds, etc... Also, while I am so appreciative of Buhner and his work, I do think he understates some of the risks/issues with some herbs. You can google herb + kidney or liver toxicity, for example, and see what comes up.

(I had liver damage a couple of years back which I am almost 100% positive was from Chinese Skullcap in Buhner's core Lyme protocol. He had no mention of potential liver issues in the book but there were plenty of reports online. Ever since then, I've been wary of relying on his books alone).

In this case, I'm pretty sure JK and Houtt are supposed to be fine long-term from my own research. I think I saw somewhere at some point that Cryptolepis might be bad for the kidneys at higher doses long-term but I can't remember.
Posted 5/6/2020 9:14 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks. My llmd seems like she is going the more pharma route for now. I have been taking herbals of different combinations for the last three years. I seen some improvements but it has been slow. Most of the herbals have been buhner herbals. The ones that I have been taking with consistancy for the last year or two are jk,houtt, CSA. I did a couple of months due to the fact I had be able to work. I knew if I took them during the work hours I would have horriable psych flairs.
As of the last two months I decided to take the
CRYPTO 1ml 2 xday
Alchornea 1ml2xday
sida samarsa herbs pwder the dosage the company says to take 2xday
Houttiana 1500- 3xday
JK 1500mg 3xday
CSA tincature 1ml 1xday
Andrographs 600mg 3xday
Monolaurium 1200mg 1xday
vit C, Nac1200 mg sometimes 1800mg, L Lyisene 1000mg per day
I figured I would throw the Kitchen sink at these bugs. Needless to say I had a bad moth or more of herxing. Alot of rage and anger as well as buzzing in both feet alond with some muscle twitch which I thought I was over. Currently I am doing really good. I hate saying this because I so used to feeling like crap that im afraid of getting used to normal.
Posted 5/6/2020 10:09 PM (GMT -5)
1yrinVA,

I did not know that about C.skullcap. I have been taking it for several years.
Posted 5/7/2020 6:14 PM (GMT -5)
WalkingByFaith - You may be fine if you have been taking Chinese Skullcap for years. I had elevated liver enzymes, abdominal pain, and worsened fatigue which were the tip-offs to me about the liver issue. But that developed after only 2-3 months on the herb for me so I may have had some sort of sensitivity/susceptibility. I am guessing due to the number of herbal products that contain Chinese Skullcap and the relatively small incidence of liver issues that it is not a common effect.
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