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Posted 8/28/2020 12:02 PM (GMT -5)
I wanted to ask you from your knowledge what the current gold standard is for identifying possible cavitation or root canal hidden infections. I'm not able to make a distinction from typical x-rays.
I have heard that some naturopathic physicians use thermal cameras with some success finding hot spots but it does not appear to be official procedure in established dentistry.
The question has come up in a discussion from a couple of folks that had frozen shoulders. Initially it was written off as scar tissue and joint deterioration from constant golfing, but turned out to be an infection.
Which brings about a second question what are the recommended treatments for infections? Aside from lasers for infected pockets are there techniques for deeper infections even going into the bone itself? Thanks for your help.
Posted 8/28/2020 12:31 PM (GMT -5)
AFAIK its usually a case of surgical excision when a bone is infected.

but I am not well-read in this area - just seems to be the general procedure used when there is infected bone.

it may be that it's too hard to treat with drugs alone

much like how the treat abscesses elsewhere - they like to scoop out most of the bad stuff then give mega doses of abx

I know that much as I had the mother of all abscesses on my ass as a kid!!.
it was not pleasant.

edit to add - i guess it depends on what type of infection - a bone-eating puss-filled abscess? then i think they would want to get in there with the tools pronto.

but all of us with Bart have an infection in our bones -as it likes to live there in the cells that make our blood cells - that is kind of a mostly silent systemic thing - rather than an acute abscess thing. And needs different treatments.

BTW bart is known for joint and ligament damage/connective tissue injuries that take forever to heal.

Post Edited (Garzie) : 8/28/2020 11:36:16 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/28/2020 12:35 PM (GMT -5)
im not sure if biological dentists use magnetic imaging to diagnose. one i went to used kinesiology but recently a family member had the cavitation removed, ozone injections but the root was so deteriorated it left a hole to his sinus cavity. the outta state dentist wouldn't seal it until he was on amox clav for 20 days . he did do surgery with a scope . it can really bog ones energy down and i know bartonella was in my bones n joints so why would my teeth be any different. i use cd mouthwash and microsting ,also propolis regularly in hopes of prevention. maybe magoo will chime in
Posted 8/28/2020 3:13 PM (GMT -5)
Biological dentists use a conebeam scan. There used to be a CAVITAT machine, but those are no longer made. I had a conebeam.

If cavitation infections are found, they can do cavitation surgery. They would pull root canal teeth.

Here’s some articles.

https://iaomt.org/tag/jawbone-cavitations/

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 8/28/2020 2:17:40 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/28/2020 7:34 PM (GMT -5)
I had a conebeam scan. I had no cavitations but I had some bone loss above a root canal-treated tooth, as well as ongoing pain, so I had it extracted by a holistic dentist. There was a gnarly pocket of infection attached to the tooth itself when it was removed, like a gelatinous ball of dental evil. Cadaver bone was placed into the jaw area, embedded into a nifty clot made from my own blood cells. The area was cleaned with ozonated water during the procedure, and I did not need any other antimicrobial treatment beyond that. My regular dentist had a little one-tooth denture made for me, covered by insurance. No regrets.
Posted 9/3/2020 4:53 PM (GMT -5)
I feel slightly conflicted about the whole thing. I switched to one of the best holistic dentists in the area, and they wouldn't consider pulling my root-canaled tooth, which I was upset about. On the other hand, I don't do well with dental things and if I had a denture I would probably lose it somehow.

I really don't know how much the dental side contributes to my symptoms. I've considered switching my dentist again, but I'm not sure if it would help things. The tooth with the root canal hurts, my back molars hurt—I'm going to see my dentist again soon, hopefully they can help me.
Posted 9/4/2020 8:48 AM (GMT -5)
What was the reasoning they gave for not pulling an achy tooth? Did they suggest alternatives in treating it? Did they do anything try try and investigate to see if the root canal was infected?
Posted 9/4/2020 10:06 AM (GMT -5)
My painful root canal area hurt for years, and I was tested in all sorts of ways (some rather brutal) by endodontists who told me the tooth and its area were fine. Imaging, ice, electrodes, hammer tapping, etc. But I knew that tooth was a problem, and I wanted it pulled.

Then I saw two holistic dentists. One of them wanted to cap half of my teeth due to microscopic cracks (which everyone has) and pull any tooth with a root canal or deep filling. They suggested $12k worth of work at my initial consultation. I'm stunned to hear of a holistic dentist that did not want to address a root canal-treated tooth.

(My earlier post described what happened when I found a better holistic dentist. They are not created equal.)
Posted 9/5/2020 2:10 PM (GMT -5)
I'm sorry— think I was just complaining. I don't think my dentist did anything special about my tooth though. I don't know though, I'm sure they have reasons for what they are doing.

In the past, a dentist I had would just be suggesting that I do unnecessary procedures, I think because of more $$$ for their practice, but I don't know. This dentist is much better.
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