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Posted 4/28/2021 10:23 AM (GMT -5)
Hi guys has anyone tried the supplement CandiBactin? The description says it combines berberine hydrochloride, Oregon grape extract, and coptis root extract, with a proprietary extract of Chinese herbs—including ginger, licorice, and skullcap—to support detoxification of the liver and gallbladder, as well as healthy immune, detoxification, and elimination functions. I have started it a few weeks ago and since then have felt more nauseousness. Could it be a herx? I was also bit in the face by my puppy. The cuts are deep and caused two scars which are still healing. I’m also currently on Sida Acura and Houty. What do you guys think of the CandiBactin? Would you say this or oregano oil is a better choice?
Thanks guys
Posted 4/28/2021 10:38 AM (GMT -5)
depends on the intention i think Hearts.

oregon grape (mahonia aquafolium) is a berberine herb - and probably potentiates the berberine sulphate - coptis too i believe - mainly used for gastrointestinal complains as its not well absorbed systemically. chinese skullcap and Licorice are potentiators also - so that all make sense for gut issues - eg overgrowth etc

in my experience some of my strongest herx like reactions are from Mahonia, Sida and Houttuynia - so raised symptoms could be some kind of herx - but for me that is usually headaches, body aches mild fever and fatigue

the oregano oil is also used for gastrointestinal issues - including fungal overgrowth - but has also been found to have anti-stationary phase bartonella effects - some find it hard on the gut
Posted 4/28/2021 6:41 PM (GMT -5)
Berberine, oregon grape, and coptis are all berberines. They can definitely kill GI stuff. I wouldn’t take it long term, as it could hurt beneficial bacteria. There may be other contraindications, too. Berberines are good and helpful, but again, I wouldn’t take it long term.

Licorice can cause low potassium and high blood pressure. It’s also not to be used long term.

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 4/28/2021 5:44:20 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/28/2021 6:50 PM (GMT -5)
Looks like a study was done using this supplement for SIBO.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc4030608/
Posted 4/29/2021 8:40 AM (GMT -5)
Thanks so much everyone I appreciate the help!
Posted 4/29/2021 8:45 AM (GMT -5)
the Licorice overdose issues are well understood and are due to Glycyrrhetic acid build up in the long term and are dose dependent - i very much doubt that there is enough in this supplement to cause that.

these risks whilst real - do tend to be overstated
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