The role of the thymus in Lyme Disease.

The Thymosin Alpha 1 experiment is going really great by the way.

I will write an update later today 🙂.

interesting update Rainy - thanks for that

the stopping sweating sounds like a very welcome and encouraging change

ref causes i think we are all guessing on exact mechanism - but i will pass on what i have read in case it helps at all
in terms of differential diagnosis i have read that
-drenching sweats at night - accompanied by actual raised body temperature when measured - ie a real fever not just feelings of having a fever - are more likely to be babesia
-moderate sweats - especially if in the early mornings - or sporadically through the day - but not accompanied by a high fever - are more likely to be bart - actual fevers do occur with bart - especially early in infection - but after years depressed body temperature is more common.

i suspect the mechanism may be to do with autonomic dysfunction - ie the part of the brain and nervous system that controls sweat glands being disrupted, but i guess it could also be driven by toxins and the skin trying to sweat them out ( my armpits defo smell like cat pee within 1hrs of washing them - especially when treating with anti-microbials )

btw - i am clammy all the time also - my palms are often clammy and my feet are often slightly tacky and i can feel them slightly stick to tiled floors when i go barefoot - and have mild to moderate sweats in the early mornings mostly - but will also sweat profusely when doing exercise / anything stressful


to try to help me and any others reading this figure out just how helpful this is for you

what are your top 3 symptoms - and how much has the TA-1 helped with this at this stage ( i know its early days - but still curious if there are signs its hitting the big stuff for you)

good luck and do keep us posted

ps - haven't been back to see the farm to ask what the story is with raw Thymus gland yet - will update when i have

hi RC - i have to say i am no expert and am largely regurgitating what i have read with my own personal experiences mixed in

but going on what i have read
- the smell - esp if ammonia/cat pee like - going by many personal accounts on here - seems to be something associated particularly with Bart

- fatigue can be any of them i think - very non-specific - effects pretty much everyone with lyme - bart too and babs - mycoplasma is associated with severe fatigue also.

- the legs buckling under you suddenly when walking or trying to exercise is something dr SP talks about in his youtube videos - refers to it as "breakaway failure" - where all strength suddenly fails - rather than gradually tiring as is more normal - Dr SP says its a classic bart sign

- daytime sleepiness or excessive sleepiness is trickier to pin on any one infection - anything that inflames the brain or increases IL-6 is known to be linked - but i will say both my partner and i ( who are both ill with the same thing - and we think is lyme + bart - but we cant rule out others) have disrupted sleep patterns.
i used to sleep like a log - but since getting ill have poor quality unrefreshing sleep ( though it is gettng better with treatment ) then my days are offset - taking all morning to get going. my partner has the opposite effect - she would get too tired to function by 8pm and go to bed - but rise and start her day at 4-30 am - so the common feature is disturbed rhythms - she was always a morning person and i always an evening person so maybe that has something to do with it...

the Townsend letter article on Bart - that we are discussing on another thread today - with an interview with Dr M the bart specialist says that adrenal insufficiency is often a characteristic of bart patients - and i think he treats it with hormones to try and get it back up - not sure on that.

all of this certainly seems to point to bart driving prominent symptoms -

the sweating possibly also - do you have an elevated body temp when sweating heavily - i usually dont - which is said to be a sign of bart - as measurable fevers are more typical for babs
no reason a person cannot have both - but i think if i was getting actual fevers with raised body temp with sweating - i would suspect Babs and probably try a treatment regime for it for a couple of months as its known to hold back recovery from lyme if not treated.

just my brain dump - hope its of some help

Hi Garzie,

You're the best, truly. Thank you!
And yes, it helps so much.

You've helped me so much on this forum. I really appreciate all the time you take to help me.

After reading what you wrote, I think it's Bart too.
I totally forgot to mention that I have stretch marks too.

The thing is, before I got on thyroid medication, I had gained 40 pounds.
I have since lost those 40 pounds again, but the stretch marks remained.

I'm starting to wonder if it's not just weight that caused it though.
I have them under me arm pits too, the stretchmarks.
Is there any way the difference in the cause of the stretchmarks?

It doesn't really matter really, because what you wrote makes so much sense and points to bart.

In regards to "breakaway failure", I couldn't have put it better myself, just wow, I thought I was the only one. If you ever come across the video, I would love to hear about it. You don't have to search for it though, I know how we have to preserve our energy these days.

Yes I have disturbed rhythms for sleep too. I've always been a night owl. Staying up really late (or early since it will end up being morning often). But then again, I don't know how long I've had these infections. So who knows maybe I am only a night owl because of bart.

I'll try to find the townsend thread. I think I saw it today actually.

In regards to raised body temp. It's so hard to say. Would that be measurable with a thermostat? I always kind of associated sweating with raised body temp, so I never questioned it. But I will have to check next time it happens.

🙂

you are welcome RC - happy to be able to help

the Townsend bart thread is the one with Dr Mozeyni and Enzymes in the title

Thanks Garzie, just checked it out, very interesting.

Brandiwine: I totally understand. Please be assured that after the first time, it's really easy. It's just the very first time that's nerve wrecking. But then once you did it, you wonder "that was it?" haha. Let me know if you have any questions.

sorry - not at this stage - it may take a while - we shop there 1x per week - but usually my partner does the collection on her route back from work - and then often it takes a few goes for me to remind the farmers wife who deals with the abattoir to ask the question ( she is a v busy lady) -

i will post back when i get some feedback though

Ive seen incredibly varied info on storage information. I may have missed it but I take it you’re getting it from PS? I did a lot of research a while back and it seemed like you almost needed to use a vial within a day of reconstitution but info was hard to find.

Do you feel like storage is decreasing potency at all? If you can store it I’ll probably order the 10mg vials and try a month at 2mg a day

Cool thank you! Appreciate it. Ive used peptides extensively for years so Ive been interested in TA1 for a while.

Think I’m going to add in some high dose grandiose, the TA1 and probably order some extract from the Russians since that’s an ultra cost effective way to do things.

I’ll post up on my results when I get into things

For sure. I competed in bodybuilding at one point and have past history with most of the growth hormone releasing peptides (GHRP, ipam, hex, CJC, etc). Also have used BPC-157 extensively for healing injuries and gut health. Definitely a powerful peptide but have to have a good source.

Not a peptide per say but I have used and still use growth hormone a lot in low doses for collagen protection, injury prevention/healing.

Ive been on TA1 for about a week. Been using between 1.5 and 2mg per day for the last 6 days and I’m liking it so far. Was doing really well for the past week or so but recently got hit hard with a lot of fatigue and fog today, may be just behind on my detox routine or who knows.

Ive got another vial I’ll run for a week or two, probably 2mg EOD. Then I have thymulin coming from RU in Russia. Got 50 days to start with @ one full vial per day (10mg) and hoping for a good response. If so then I’ll probably use it for 3-6 months

OK - so last week when i picked up my regular meat shopping from the farm i asked again about thymus.

the nice lady who runs the shop holds down 3 jobs, so she had forgotten, but got back to me today to say the abattoir have no rules against human consumption and she should have some fresh beef thymus gland n next week to try.

this should be interesting
i don't feel brave enough to eat it raw at this stage - does any one have any info or sources about preparation
one idea i had was simply to mince it and include it in my home made grass fed beef breakfast sausage
that way i would get a little dose every day - but it is also well cooked and I'm unsure how delicate the beneficial compounds are so may not be the best way

i will have to do a bit of reading up.

interesting article here - basically says can be soaked then poached or grilled

and they are referred to as sweetbreads - which i had originally thought was a term for testicles when eaten as offal - but it seems this term was properly applied to the thymus as superior

https://offallygoodcooking.com/sweetbreads/

check out the recipies at the bottom of the page

quite looking forward to trying them now

it also says a bit of how in humans and animals its only really active when they are young - so i will have to find out how old the animals were - typically beef cattle are 2-3yrs i think