Sida Kills or Repairs???

I have no idea. Do you have Buhner’s bartonella book? What does he say Sida acuta does to bartonella?

most herbs have multiple effects as they contain many different compounds - perhaps that is causing some degree of confusion.

however, sida is primarily used as an antimicrobial - its one of the strongest herbs available for this.

i have tried many different herbs and can attest to sida being one of those that caused the strongest herx like reactions. ( i have lyme and highly suspect bart based on symptoms)

i don't think it repairs red blood cells - as such - once cells are infected or damaged they are normally taken out of circulation by the spleen or liver - and replaced by new ones - rather than repaired.

buhner writes that it helps protect red blood cells - i think this is by killing bacteria in the blood ( one of sida's main uses is in blood borne infections) so that they are less able to infect red blood cells in the first place.

buhner is a bit neutral on biofilms - feels they are an over emphasised part of treatment - and that all herbs inhibit and breakdown biofilms such that targeting them independently in unnecessary.

more recent research on bartonella points to the organism diverting the bodies clotting mechanisms and forming fibrin and maybe plasmin deposits - which may have been confused or confounded with the concept of biofilm in the past - recent protocols from Bart doctors like Dr M include fibrinolytic enzymes for breaking down these deposits.

sadly, sida on its own is not very likely to be curative for long standing bart infection in my view / experience

all of these infections suppress the immune system as a means of surviving long term - so simply killing some of them off doesn't usually result in a cure - the whole body health needs to be addressed

for this reason sida is usually used in combination with other herbs in a broader protocol - this is how herbal medicine is normally practiced - if going down this path i would highly recommended buhners book on bartonella
typically this includes
herbs to support the immune system - reduce inflammation, modulate immune function
herbs to support the organs typically damaged by bartonella - liver, lymph/spleen, circulation
etc etc
for bartonella sida and houttuynia are used together as a minimum

Post Edited (Garzie) : 10/29/2021 4:12:36 AM (GMT-6)

Looks like a couple of its big benefits is relating to sleep and
neurological benefits - items on everyone's Lyme Hit List

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/s0102695x15002343

Rob

I am thinking of doing this. Adding one drop at a time. One herb at a time

Teasel Root - Sida - Houttuynia - Otoba Bark - Oil of Oregano - Cinnamon Oil - Clove oil

Then maybe adding in Astragulus, Alchornea, Istasis

Can I mix in some anti-biotics? I am scared to try Rifampin because it can cause tendonitis and I already have such bad tendonitis. I am pretty confident these herbs can kill the bacteria. But, can't ever be too sure. Because these herbs can break biofilms. Which can send the bacteria scattering for around the body. Without an affective killing agent could make things worse.

LymePeace1 said...
.... Because these herbs can break biofilms. Which can send the bacteria scattering for around the body. Without an affective killing agent could make things worse.

i think you may be overthinking it....

i think the concept that you take a herb and scatter bacteria around the body is false - if you have lyme and or bart they are already all around the body. Studies clearly show they reside in skin, brain, liver, spleen, colon etc etc within days of infection

besides the herbs ARE antimicrobials

many people improve by going slow and low as you plan to do - myself included

there will be ups and downs - that's OK - just make a plan - start - and adjust as necessary along the way