How to prevent even more Bartonella marks?

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has any advice on preventing additional Bartonella "stretch" marks? When I first got sick I got several large ones which haven't gone away, it's a bit upsetting.

A few days ago I tried the clove + cinnamon + oregano combo to break up biofilms. It was a very intense experience. Even more so than Lumbrokinase. I had trouble walking, lot's of fatigue, dizziness, eye symptoms etc. Almost felt like I hit the Lyme rock bottom again.

And now my skin actually hurts at exactly the same places where I got the marks the first time around. It's really sensitive to touch almost feels like it's burned in the sun but it's not.

It's localized to just those places so I don't think it's an allergic reaction.

Anyway, I have a strong feeling it's in the process of forming additional stretch marks. Is there any type of lotion that would be good for this? Or a supplement? I'm taking collagen powder and vitamin C powder, both internally. Also drinking a lot of water, not sure if that is helpful.

Thank you.

yeah do 90 + consecutive days of that biofim combo may help suppress skin stuff... i used to do a oregano oil and milk in hot bath . this neem creme helped for a bit too

You are all amazing, thank you so much for the advice!

dcd: yes the ones in that crease you mentioned, I have those too, they look awful I'm going to try those things you mentioned. I searched online for articles about it and it wasn't even remotely as helpful as your comment.

bluelyme: that's great to know, I'm going to keep going at it and look into the milk + neem. Like you said consecutive days might be key here in busting the biofilms.

Quin: Ah yes, I'm on doxy + bactrim + ceftin, but I like your idea of minocycline better. So I think I'll switch the doxy for that!

Thanks again guys! Great advice.

The way to stop getting stretch marks - is to fully treat Bartonella.

So go after that beast!

Hey Rainy

hope you are doing OK

in general i think i'm in the treat bart to prevent more stretchmarks / scarring type stuff camp

but i wonder if the ivermectin trial is worth a go - as that seemed to work on the outer arm for the gritty bumps- which i have put down to bart also in my mind

i havnt seen anything in my reading that treats these bart striae when active - but i have read that for alot of people they fade after treatment

by the way there seems to be a lot of terms in use for bart related stretch marks / striae and i think some confounding is common

stretch marks per se - as in the skin features people are known to get during rapid growth or weight gain or pregnancy - are something different to bart striae -
these are usually perpendicular to the direction of growth or stretching -
and not yet known to be associated with bart.


bart striae on the other hand are typically not perpendicular to the skin stretching direction - but more random - can occur anywhere - but armpits, thighs, trunk and back are common
these are typically vivid red or purple at first and usually fade over time
no one yet knows why or how exactly they form
but confocal laser microscopy studies show disturbed collagen fibre production in the tissues
bart can be isolated from the tissues of affected and unaffected skin in patients with these

confusingly people with bart striae maybe more likely to have traditional stretch marks also - this may be due to the aforementioned collagen disruption reducing the elasticity of the skin - but the reasosn for this are so far unstudied.
i have noticed i have some on my buttocks - even though i have never been overweight - and as far as i can tell i do not have an oversized ass

Jake picker did an interview with Marna Ericson - who is a published microbiologist and leads the microscopy work for T-labs - on the topic of bart striae that was v interesting - will find a link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxvwF47CGlk

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19631631/

“ This study investigated the effects of minocycline, known for its anti-inflammatory properties, on cerebral edema and its respective inflammatory markers by comparing different dose regimens, on oxidative stress and on neurological dysfunction following TBI. The weight drop model was used to induce TBI in mice.. “

Thank you guys so much, this thread is really helpful to me.