Shoulder bone pain

So I'm like 107 pounds and 5'7 and gosh I hate it. I'm used to being 140. So when I lay on my shoulders at bed time I wake up in So much pain and agony. I've been sleeping like crap because of this. Feels like I'm literally laying on bones or sleeping on a hard surface!! They're so sore. Is it because of muscle wasting? If so what helps?? I've had same issue with my hips in the past. My shoulder bones do crunch if I pick my arms up and move them around.

Post Edited (MedicalNerd) : 2/25/2023 4:26:10 AM (GMT-8)

This is not unusual. I’ve written quite a few posts about this in the years I’ve been here and they tend to get quite lengthy so I’m just gonna try to summarize here:

There’s many different ways pain symptoms can develop from these infections. And it’s really hard to tell which infection is doing it .

Lyme bacteria do not like oxygen and there is zero oxygen in cartilage (no blood). Home sweet home for them.

These infections, again some or all we don’t know, also seem to cause circulation problems in Body tissue. There seems to be a muscle wasting as well.

The circulation problems can cause muscle tension. When you have uneven muscle tension, that poison joints out of position. So then you can have muscle tension which actually seems like it’s a joint problem since that’s what caused as an end result. But when that happens the cause is actually not the joint it’s further away from it ....in the uneven muscle tension.

The shoulder joint is the most complicated joint in the human body was seven tendons joining there. Those tendons all attached to muscles.

So then since we’re in pain we stop moving. And that makes the symptoms even worse because we stiffen up from not getting circulation.

This evil circle needs to be disrupted. Waiting to rid yourself of these infections takes too long.

So how to lower the pain level and how to maybe control it better:

Popping ibuprofen to help with the pain is not a good idea because sooner or later that’ll hurt your stomach. There are quite a few different topical supplements creams etc. for pain relief but you want something that does not just cover the pain feeling do you want something that actually lowers the inflammation. Anything that has menthol as the main ingredient is not gonna do much except make you smell like an old person in the nursing home.

There are three topical solutions I found that help with us after trying pretty much everything. Oh there is a new one that girlie has used that I do not remember the name of. Penetrex sold online and in Walmart has many different natural supplements in it it works pretty good instead of buying many different types you just buy this little tub for 18 bucks it works very well. Solomon seal tincture also works as a topical pain solution. I have followed both of these with DMSO to drive it in deeper. DMSO seems to be controversial basically it’s natures alcohol derived from the wood pulp industry. It does not kill people lol. They’ve used it on racehorses for a long time.

The above topical solutions should calm down the inflammation and make it a little easier to move. Then you really should try to move more by doing floor exercises. YouTube has a lot of this and nerve glides.

Then Gently rolling around on a foam roller For the legs and back, and tennis ball or lacrosse ball for joints also gets circulation moving which brings in new nutrients and pushes out the old toxic fluid.

Post Edited (astroman) : 2/26/2023 8:33:42 AM (GMT-8)

astroman said...

Lyme bacteria do not like oxygen and there is zero oxygen in cartilage (no blood). Home sweet home for them.

That borrelia relies on anerobic glycolysis and survives under hypoxic conditions makes it incredibly hard to kill. Borrelia is immune to antibiotics that target the respiratory chain (eg atovaquone) and forms large aggregates that are difficult to break up.

Bartonella and babesia can mostly be eliminated in a few months with the right meds, but even after I found a combination of drugs that reliably kills borrelia, a year later I am still trying to get rid of the last of it. It is very difficult to disintegrate those large borrelia colonies.

Body joints, cartilage and tendons no matter where they are, are all the same to lyme.

My hip joints and SI joints were a major problem, in addition to my whole spine, shoulders and neck. Pretty much my whole body.

So that information I gave you about increasing circulation helps, from my own experience, and others who try it. Since I live in lyme country, I luckily met a physical therapist and chiropractor who had personal experience with this treating patients and this is exactly what they did for those people and it helped. I had to meet many PTs and chiropractors years ago before I found two that actually understood lyme to some extent.

Having too much cortisol flowing through your body also creates a continuous tension in your muscles and joints. It’s a wired but tired feeling.

There are quite a few adrenal adaptogens, the most common ones are holy basil and Ashwagonda. It really does help to get some testing done first before you do this on your own.

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Up till about four years ago this forum had twice the amount of traffic that it does now. So it was much easier to see just from reading people symptoms How common symptoms were.

There were a lot of people that -when you read their story, they assumed they had MS at one time because their whole body was tight. I was one of those people for years. My body creeked as much as the wood floors do in my house.

Post Edited (astroman) : 2/26/2023 8:31:08 AM (GMT-8)