Marty Ross Bart Protocols / Fibrinolytics

Okay, so I was just wondering your input on one of the Marty Ross Bartonella protocols: methylene blue and fluconazole or itraconazole.

Has anyone tried this combination? I attempted to search the group, but I couldn’t find this specifically, only lots of MB posts.

Also, regarding fibrinolytics, Girlie, you mentioned using Bromelain and seeing success. Lumbrokinase is recommended quite frequently, and on the MR website.

WalkingbyFaith stated that a well-regarded provider has said that the Canada RNA brand is the only one that works. It is expensive.

I bought some for this month, but I am wondering if it’s really necessary, or if I’ll really notice a huge difference compared to a cheaper option?

Thank you for bearing with me, guys. I’m going to try teas, maybe small dose DSF, and MB for awhile, while I attempt to find an affordable naturopathic doctor or something to prescribe certain meds.

The MB and antifungal combo is pretty interesting, though. I know those can be hard on your liver, but they’re also somewhat accessible without an Rx.

Thank you to everyone that shares with me.

i am using bromelain - i was able to see quite a dramatic change in the amount of fibrin and amyloid deposits in my blood after 6 weeks so i am pretty confident it has some benefit - see the link in my signature for images of that

i have also tried lumbrokinase - doctor's best brand - had the same strength in terms of dosages and enzymatic activity as the Canada RNA brand according to the product label.

in general i have found Doctor's Best Brand supplements to be very reliable - and in terms of herx response when taken along slide antimicrobial herbs and medications ( i dont think people with infections should probably take fibrinolytics or biofilm agents on their own ) -

i found it to be approx 4-8x as strong as the bromelain ( 3000gdu/g ) on a capsule for capsule basis - so while i haven't tried Canada RNA side by side for comparison - i can say the doctors best brand was plenty strong enough for me - in fact i had to stop after 3 days as the effect as too strong for me to tolerate much longer - and i reverted to the milder bromelain at 2x 500mg a day until i have progressed further in treatment

in the end unless they are flat out lying on the label - the enzymatic activity - in this case lumbrokinase units - and dose - which are stated on both products - should be all you need to determine strength.

i think there is a lot of marketing BS in the supplement world - especially from the more expensive brands - who need to justify their higher prices somehow.

the MB and antifungal combo is based on an in vitro ( done in the test tube - not on humans or animals - model of disease) study done at Johns Hopkins a few years ago
they tested already approved drugs for activity against bartonella - and an azole antifungal ( not fluconazole - it was a related drug clotrimazole i think) and MB came up in the top 10 or 20 most active drugs in that list

clotrimazole is not generally available as an oral tablet - hence fluconazole is being suggested

i dont think there are any organised human trials of these combinations - only anecdotal reports by llmds like MR and personal experiences on sites like facebook etc

its likely they are active and both are systemic oral drugs - so its likely they are effective to some degree - but doses of MB required to act as a strong persister drug are very high - 400-800mg a day - as used by Dr H in his high dose dapsone trials - which have tolerability issues and risks - and Fluconazole is a rather harsh drug - with risks to the liver etc - requiring regular safely labs - i would consider it an advanced therapy to be pursued with appropriate safety measures

i hope its of some help