Pomegranate juice

steve

The product is better taken as an extract, because the OPC components are more concentrated.

The effect is mirrored by those of products like OPC-3 or OPCXtra.

I take OPCXtra on a daily basis, and can not under-recommend it's benefits. ... .. . I suspect that Pomegranite would be no different.

When Dx'ed with PC, I started taking 6 serves a day, and started to see a PSA drop, just prior to  RP.   I know a friend who is fully controlling a cancer, just with OPC..  I think that he also has the Pomegranate extract as a side extra.

PS - After a year on OPC - Lower Cholesterol, Arthritis near cured or well under control, no colds etc...  Just feeling so much 'better'..

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(http://www.optihealthstore.com/products/product/1)

Pomegranate is 'Just another source'  of these OPC's..  Are they any better?

I have no idea, but it frustrates me that some of these "Alternative Supplement" suppliers sell so many products that all claim to do the same thing.

At least with OPCXtra, you are getting OPC's from five Most-Common sources.

I would love it if they simply added Pomegranate as an additional 'Source'.

Why have multiple sources - because they all work slightly differently !

Many  OPC  products are based on just one source of OPC's like Grape-Seed, or Pomegranate.

So when you start to talk about these products, keep your eye open for things like  Resveratrol, OPC-3, OPCXtra, Pomegranate Extract, Purple Defence, The French Paradox, The Mediteranian Diet.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2002/01/09/grapes-part-one.aspx

Have a look at this as an introduction to the bio-chemistry.

 and for a list of references

http://search.mercola.com/results.aspx?k=purple%20defense

""Most prostate cancers are slowly developing tumors and premalignant or early malignant lesions are therefore possible targets for non-toxic chemopreventive agents. Flavonoids, to which OPC are closely related, exert an effect on prostate cells through different mechanisms such as interference with mitogenic signaling mediated by steroid or growth factor receptors or binding proteins [16–18].

In the present study, we show that OPC has an antiproliferative and pro-apoptotic effect in three prostate cancer cell lines. We showed that AR expression in LNCaP cells is reduced by 50% by OPC.""

Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/15/2010 2:26:06 PM (GMT-7)

IF - you can get to PC early - you can possily control it
IF - you have it, you can reduce it's impact and
IF - you have HAD it, then you have better chance of controlling Met's etc. before they get started.  (  A Preventative  Plan-B  )

Do NOT limit your thinking to Pomegranate..  Things are much more general, and I suspect that researchers are going with Pomegranate as it's a single source.  ..  Were they to use a multi-source, then they would never be certain , which component might have done the trick..

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Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/15/2010 2:43:03 PM (GMT-7)

James C. said...
What about a concentrate, reconstitutes to 6 8 oz. servings?

Seems pretty cheap this way. Wonder if the benefits carry over from full liquid to a concentrate?

The thing to do is to step back and look at the ENTIRE picture.
What the hell is Pomegranate Juice?  Why the fuss - What is special - What is in it - How does it work..?
 
The reality would seem to be that it is just the 'latest' development in the chain of known sources of Bio-flavanoids and Anti-Oxidants/OPC's etc.
Not for a second, am I running it down, but for some years now, we have seen the heavy study into why we have the 'French paradox" and the "Mediteranian Diet".
 
It started many hundreds of years ago when Indians discovered the dramatic healing properties of a tea made from the bark of Pine-Trees.
It cured a great many ailments of the early sea-farers.
 
It was finally discovered that the matter that gave the benefits was this OPC chemical series, and later it was discovered that other "Old-Wives" remedies had similar benefits  eg.  Green Tea,  and Wine, Olive-Leaves, etc..
When these were analised, they discovered the same group of chemicals - OPC's..  The picture is starting to come together now.
Meanwhile , health practioners are spruking about the benefits of natural/organic HIGHLY colored vegetables..  Again it's the OPC's that are the main 'healers' within these plants.  I could go on but I won't..
 
Pomegranate is just ONE of thousands of foods that exhibit these chemicals, that are good for us, and largely work by attacking the nasties - the free-radicals, that are associated with illness and cancer etc.
So we then need a measure of how to gauge this effectives..  Enter  ORAC
Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity (ORAC) of Selected Foods
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/ORAC/ORAC_R2.pdf
 
NOW - we have a quantification of which foods provide the MOSTEST benefit..
 
So when you look at Pomegranate Juice, just read  ORAC benefit, OPC content etc. etc.  and enjoy the flavor.
When we talk of these products , we find that there are MANY professing to have the same properties.. We have the original Pycnogenol, and OPC-3 and OPCXtra, and Resveratrol, Olive-Leaf Extract etc.etc.etc. etc.
What WE firstly need is the beneficial components, if we can get them, and then a convenient  delivery method.
 
Enter eg.  OPCXtra..   It is sold as a powder and when mixed with the right amount of water, becomes an IsoTonic mixture, meaning that it is the same partial pressures (?) of chemicals in the blood.  This means that it can be absorbed into the gut within minutes, and hence avoid being altered by stomach contents, and have the ORAC benefits reduced.
 
So - back to your question  "What about a reconstitute drink",
well I say - what are you taking - a drink or the OPC's contained in it.
 
You want a convenient source of OPC's.   The two best know ones are the OPC-3 and the OPCXtra products..  OPC-3 is sold by Market-America ,  and  OPCXtra by  OPCXtra
 
Key Ingredients Found In Isotonix OPC-3?:   $70/300Gms
Grape Seed Extract : 25 mg
Red Wine Extract: 25 mg    
Pine Bark Extract (Pycnogenol?)    25 mg
Bilberry Extract : 25 mg
Citrus Extract (Bioflavonoids): 25 mg.

Key Ingredients found in OPCXtra :   $40/300gms
Grape Seed Extract 30mg
Red Wine Extract 30mg
Pine Bark Extract 30mg
Bilberry Extract 30mg
Green Tea Extract 30mg
Citrus Extract Bioflavonoids 30mg
Vitamin C 30mg
Vitamin E 15iu

From there you can head in all directions looking at Resveratrol, and Anti-Oxidants, and Pomegranate Extract.
BUT - From my understanding, we are talking about all the same technology and processes.

Sorry for the long response,  but I could go on !

ANYONE - with Cancer or having had cancer, would be most wise to investigate this field of research..  IMHO   (but what would I know?)

I only wish that the extracts of Pomegranate were added to my OPCXtra !

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Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/16/2010 2:55:15 PM (GMT-7)

Purgatory said...
Considering there is no 100% proof on the POM subject, amazed at how many buy into it. Again, no harm will come from drinking it,.....
david in sc

I repeat a previous comment - I have personally seen the results on a Brain-Cancer being sent into remission.  YES - it may be a miracle, or it might be a placebo effect, but it IS happening and it might be coincidence that the chap is taking 6 doses of OPC each day.  

We can only say 'Bar-Humbug' for just so long..  IF you have a problem NOW - you want answers NOW.

I know that this is what the QUAKS have prayed upon for decades, but there IS medical proof that there is substance to these claims for Anti-Oxidants and OPC's...

PS - Do you think that the USDA would go to the trouble of measuring the ORAC value of most common foods, if they really thought that it was all "Bar-Humbug" stuff..

http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/ORAC/ORAC_R2.pdf
 

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Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/16/2010 1:44:24 PM (GMT-7)